A Philosophical Thought

Hi, since Off-Topic in a week degenerated into Mental Coma and Brain death, I want to raise a question here. So, As I said in my inspiration music needed thread, I am studying hardcore for the Portuguese National Exams: 2017 edition, namely Portuguese and History. But, since I'm a History-lover and Portuguese as a subject has stayed the same nearly for 20 years and it's just complete Wasteland to even score higher than 150 points out of 200, I turned myself to History, a much harder subject to study for the finals and also with tendencies to be biased.

And I came across with something. In the subject's content program (things we have tolearn and study for the exam), most of our last year's content is about Russia, particularly Communism. Nearly half of our things we have to study are about Communism, since the Associativism and Sindicalism and devolves into Marxism Principles in the 19th century (and even Luddism as a predecessor to that) going through Lenine's short rule from October Revolution to NEP and Wartime Communism (economic policies) to Stalin's Political and Economic Policies, all the way to the fall of the Soviet Union, including cold war (hugely biased to US's side with NATO, OECE and Marshall Plan and Kruschev and Brejnev ( a cuck btw).

My question pretty much is, and I'd like to know about other countries too: Is Communism that much talked about in your educational systems like in here?

Because we even approach it hard after Portuguese Carnation Revolution of 1974 with the Agrarian Reform and the Political Turmoil of the Hot Summer of 75.



PS: This is kind of a brainfart, but true. Why is Communism ideology such a big deal in educational system?

I don't remember going too deeply into any economical models during my obligatory education... nor focusing particularly on modern history either

Greek history classes are almost comletely centered around Greece, stupid but true. So no, we don't go particularly in-depth about Communism. But as far as bias is concerned when it comes to subjects unrelatred to Greece there's barely any bias, so that's a plus.

I went to an american school, we pretty much got the idea that communism was a cancerous infectious disease and the movements to remove it worldwide were holy and righteous.

At least i finished before the SJW's took over and i missed the part of the religion of peace. Muslims were portrayed as what they trully are, backwarded oppressors and murderers.

Hmm. We learned alittle about World War I and how russia left it. It was mentioned again when we learned about waimer republic and how fear of communists motived germans.

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

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I guess you didn't learn much... since you refer to all as "communism". Misconception, wrong drawer and over-simplified generalisation.
Learn more and get over the black-n-white-world-vision.
Btw. where is the so called "philosophical thought" of this thread?

Skrivet av Columna Durruti, 17.06.2017 at 10:13

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

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I guess you didn't learn much... since you refer to all as "communism". Misconception, wrong drawer and over-simplified generalisation.
Learn more and get over the black-n-white-world-vision.

In the end it all comes to this word, communism. All this utopic trash. These fellas, compromising this honorable term forever, failing brilliantly and taking dozens of peoples with them.

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

PS: This is kind of a brainfart, but true. Why is Communism ideology such a big deal in educational system?

The main subject in my History SAT was about the specific national type of Communism in my contry, but these alternate, there's no centering on this.

And for obvious reasons, this/ese ideology/es united under the generic term of Communism (how our versed in History of Ideologies fella Columna is trying to show us, eventho' he has no real idea of what this fenomena means beyond words written on paper or on the pc screen) marked the second half of the 19th century a bit, the 20th century decisively and the 21st also a lot. So this is why is in the History books.

Skrivet av Guest, 17.06.2017 at 14:58

Skrivet av Columna Durruti, 17.06.2017 at 10:13

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

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I guess you didn't learn much... since you refer to all as "communism". Misconception, wrong drawer and over-simplified generalisation.
Learn more and get over the black-n-white-world-vision.

In the end it all comes to this word, communism. All this utopic trash. These fellas, compromising this honorable term forever, failing brilliantly and taking dozens of peoples with them.

Mmmmmhhhh... nope. Your wrong.
Socialist utopia and practices precede the "invention" of communism... and will survive "mainstream communism".

Btw. what do you mean with "all this utopic trash" and "compromising this honourable term"?
How can the term be "honourable" and at the same time the associated "utopia" be trash?

Skrivet av Columna Durruti, 17.06.2017 at 15:10

Skrivet av Guest, 17.06.2017 at 14:58

Skrivet av Columna Durruti, 17.06.2017 at 10:13

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

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Mmmmmhhhh... nope. Your wrong.
Socialist utopia and practices precede the "invention" of communism... and will survive "mainstream communism".

Btw. what do you mean with "all this utopic trash" and "compromising this honourable term"?
How can the term be "honourable" and at the same time the associated "utopia" be trash?

Communism utopia precedes this " modern and contemporary age discovery." I know this very well, also I don't like to use the term socialist before 19th century.
All this utopic trash=communism. Honourable term=communism, life in common/group of ppl using goods without property deeds constraining this usage. Yes, it was a common term, before 19th or even 20th century, a regular one, like I would say cucumber or plane and after 20 years these 2 terms might get compromised by some deluded lunatics.
Communism is an utopia, don't you know? and the reality of it, in the field, was grim, I might say trash. So this utopia=trash. I don't speak about the theory now, but about the reality. In theory cincinals were achieved in 3 and countless e.g.'s.

Skrivet av Columna Durruti, 17.06.2017 at 10:13

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 17.06.2017 at 07:05

-snip!-

I guess you didn't learn much... since you refer to all as "communism". Misconception, wrong drawer and over-simplified generalisation.
Learn more and get over the black-n-white-world-vision.
Btw. where is the so called "philosophical thought" of this thread?

Dude...you do know the label communism applies to soviet union era which was what I talked about. In my History subject we approach everything of the soviet union from the October Revolution to the perestroika (with some exceptions).

Ofc I over-simplified, I rushed wrote this and wouldnt be writing what I interiorized about 70 years of communismthe..even though that would help me

(For the record I did learn much, as im top history course student of my area/municipality lulz)

The core of my question was why does Communism needs to get such protagonism (even though we learn it cuz of the commies in portugal)

Skrivet av RaulPB, 17.06.2017 at 07:09

I don't remember going too deeply into any economical models during my obligatory education... nor focusing particularly on modern history either

We study the NEP, Wartime Communism (1918-1921), Stalinist 5 year plans ( I, II, III) and the diskulak-tivization (elimination of rural landowners hostile to the collectivization), and then Brejnev and Kruschev briefly <<<< pretty much what we study for the exam (+ 60 other small things on general subject)

Skrivet av Rock Lee, 17.06.2017 at 09:34

Hmm. We learned alittle about World War I and how russia left it. It was mentioned again when we learned about waimer republic and how fear of communists motived germans.

We aren't even taught about the conflict itself both in WW1 and in WW2, all we study is Italian and German Fascism and then a brief introduction to Ialta and Potsdam conferences, and then we go straight to Welfare-State accomplishments during Attlee's term and Cold War and other economic thingies

Cool update on this subject:

I wasted 2 weeks of my time studying the prime content of my History A subject and that didn't even appear at the exam :/

I had Marxism classes during my schooldays (everyone had) but no one got a clue what it was about. Apparently the Ministry of Education used original terms and definitions of Marx and teached children, they didn't try to simplify it, explain and test. So you had to learn definitions like it's Physics, go on test, pass and forget about it the next day.

I learned about Communism and Marxism later, from books in public library, like Das Kapital and Communist Manifesto, but that wasn't connected to school, it was just for my curiosity.

But speaking about history classes; almost whole Russian Empire era was erased, and teaching simplified to:

800ad: Russia created
1812: Russia invaded by France
1905: Failed revolution, Tsar bad
1914: imperialistic war, Russian aggression on Germany
1917: Second revolution, nobility and bourgeois try to strangle the working class
1922: Soviet Union created
1941: Soviet Union invaded by Germany
1945: Soviet Union wins

And that's it, then they spread this few facts on 8 years of schooling (4 years in elementary school, 4 in high school).
Modern Russia's history classes are same i've heard, same facts just few more added about Russian history. Apparently no one is willing to do a reform, remove old explanation and add new ones to update the curricula.

Not only Russia, but whole Europe is old 2000 years, some states exist for 1000 years in continuitation, that's rich history. They deserve to be told to young generations, i don't understand why they do it 'crash course' style.


P.S.
I wonder if China's education properly educate their kids about 4000 years old Chinese history