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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

13.09.2016 - 13:56
 JF.
Consul Vote
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
2)Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Praetor Vote
2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
2)Gogonius Maximus (GC) [Potestatem]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
2)Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ) [Potestatem]

Levying Forces
1)6 legions


Force Deployments
1)Legio II, Legio VII, Legio IX, Legio VIII, 4 legions to Africa +half new legions raised
half new legions raised sent to spain

Sertorian Land Bill
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Publius Numertorius (JF)
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13.09.2016 - 13:59
Skrivet av Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:26

Neutrals could have also formed a third party but they don't seem capable of organizing.


Don't blame neutrals for Postetam's lack of backbone
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13.09.2016 - 14:16
I tried a few times to get neutrals together, but they wished to stay factionless

p.s. message me if you want to get a cool faction
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13.09.2016 - 14:43
Consul Vote
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) & Julianus Antonius (El Tundero)


Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)


Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
1) Consul Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
1) Consul Sertorious resigning in favor of Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Levying Forces
1)6 legions

Force Deployments
1)Legio II, Legio VII, Legio IX, Legio VIII, 4 legions to Africa +half new legions raised
half new legions raised sent to spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus )
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13.09.2016 - 14:44
Skrivet av Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:26

Skrivet av Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:30


I'll be reborn in the next game. Populares have won, they just need to end it


There won't be a next game at this rate.

I have felt next to no challenge politically from the other party. What point is there in playing when players won't use means available to them to fight back and instead sink into so easily into defeatism and navel gazing? If we remade we would just beat you again. Stand up. If you thought this was some kind of co-op game to conquer the barbarians (other than in early republic) you are wrong, its a game to achieve political control. I don't take any of it personally but when people throw the game it bothers me. The other faction has lots of resources, more votes, and great potential to regain its strength atm. Neutrals could have also formed a third party but they don't seem capable of organizing.


I would form my own faction and run it as I see fit. I planned to get Zephyrus on board and to keep his legions. I also expected more reinf when governing Spain and GC was consul. But I don't blame him for that, was just not communicated very well.

You cant expect to play a game with half assed noobs and expect a good fight.

If I lead a faction it'll have clear direction. But again that's dependent upon a remake.
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13.09.2016 - 14:48
Skrivet av Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 14:44

Skrivet av Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:26

Skrivet av Phoenix, 13.09.2016 at 07:30


I'll be reborn in the next game. Populares have won, they just need to end it


There won't be a next game at this rate.

I have felt next to no challenge politically from the other party. What point is there in playing when players won't use means available to them to fight back and instead sink into so easily into defeatism and navel gazing? If we remade we would just beat you again. Stand up. If you thought this was some kind of co-op game to conquer the barbarians (other than in early republic) you are wrong, its a game to achieve political control. I don't take any of it personally but when people throw the game it bothers me. The other faction has lots of resources, more votes, and great potential to regain its strength atm. Neutrals could have also formed a third party but they don't seem capable of organizing.


I would form my own faction and run it as I see fit. I planned to get Zephyrus on board and to keep his legions. I also expected more reinf when governing Spain and GC was consul. But I don't blame him for that, was just not communicated very well.

You cant expect to play a game with half assed noobs and expect a good fight.

If I lead a faction it'll have clear direction. But again that's dependent upon a remake.

limit of max 3 people in a faction would help
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13.09.2016 - 15:31
Consul Vote
2) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )


Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Praetor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)


Who will command the 3rd Punic Wart?
1) Consul Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolts?
1) Consul Sertorious resigning in favor of Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus )

Levying Forces
1)6 legions

Force Deployments
1)Legio II, Legio VII, Legio IX, Legio VIII, 4 legions to Africa +half new legions raised
half new legions raised sent to spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)(will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Harbor Fees 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus )
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13.09.2016 - 16:09
==Turn 13: Phase 3 has begun==
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13.09.2016 - 16:16
Wow I have 4 armies versus 8
Gg envelopment tactic.
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13.09.2016 - 16:18
Skrivet av Darth., 13.09.2016 at 16:16

Wow I have 4 armies versus 8
Gg envelopment tactic.


8, 4 of which are Veterans, so 12
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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13.09.2016 - 18:13
Skrivet av JF., 13.09.2016 at 17:37

Why did you not put my votes in?

And you put people who voted after me in........................


idk why I always miss you for some reason, anyway updated. Your vote changed the command, Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ) now is in control of spain and the deployments were changed to spliting the new recruits back between africa and spanish fronts
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13.09.2016 - 18:25
Skrivet av Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:23


Assassination Attempt

Soon after Antonius finishes speaking he is approached by a group of men and attacked suddenly with knives. Able to throw his toga at them he runs fast into the crowd and escapes his would be assassins.

Roll: 3 (+1 from card) =4
Result: Assassination attempt fails on Tunder but perpetrator escapes
roll proof


Obviously Populares are growing bolder as time passes by
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13.09.2016 - 18:32
>Aqollo is a useless scrub that humiliated Rome
>A failed and disintegrating state sends Roman Ambassadors away, with no fear of retribution
>Populares don't declare war against the selukids
>Aqollo doesn't commit suicide

Rome is a mockery to the world, we have fallen so low and all because a small cabal of greedy bastards are monopolizing control of Rome. Google Chrome lacks a backbone, perhaps the role of woman fits him better than that of a Senator.




I propose those who are brave and virtuous to abandon Google Chrome's Failed faction, and Join mine instead. Populares will start dropping dead within 3 turns.
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13.09.2016 - 18:44
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:25

Skrivet av Aetius, 13.09.2016 at 12:23


Assassination Attempt

Soon after Antonius finishes speaking he is approached by a group of men and attacked suddenly with knives. Able to throw his toga at them he runs fast into the crowd and escapes his would be assassins.

Roll: 3 (+1 from card) =4
Result: Assassination attempt fails on Tunder but perpetrator escapes
roll proof


Obviously Populares are growing bolder as time passes by


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13.09.2016 - 18:45



Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.
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13.09.2016 - 18:52
 JF.
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:45




Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.


Where's my 6 talents
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13.09.2016 - 18:55
Skrivet av JF., 13.09.2016 at 18:52

Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:45




Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.


Where's my 6 talents


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13.09.2016 - 18:57
 JF.
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:55

Skrivet av JF., 13.09.2016 at 18:52

Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:45




Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.


Where's my 6 talents





Oh you think this is a joke.

You're going down.
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13.09.2016 - 19:29
Skrivet av JF., 13.09.2016 at 18:57

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You and Phoenix got killed off by murderous Populares, yet you much rather fight over shekels.
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13.09.2016 - 19:37
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:45




Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.

Ahaha, you fool
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13.09.2016 - 19:57
Skrivet av Google, 13.09.2016 at 19:37

Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 18:45




Senators of Rome, Hear me out, or we all are going to die.


Google Chrome is controlled opposition, he receives shekels in order to root those who oppose the Populares out. I have overwhelming evidence that Google Chrome attempts to let his faction die and allow Populares to do an effective coup-de'tat. I beg those senators who are still loyal to Rome to Join my faction and stop Populares before they get too strong and can finally take their masks off, showing how evil and how son of whores they are.

Ahaha, you fool


So what are you then? Controlled Opposition or the most useless opposition that there is?
3 times has Populares attempted to assassinate people within the last 2 turns yet your faction hasn't moved a finger.
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13.09.2016 - 21:02
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 19:57

So what are you then? Controlled Opposition or the most useless opposition that there is?
3 times has Populares attempted to assassinate people within the last 2 turns yet your faction hasn't moved a finger.

We arnt stupid fool.
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13.09.2016 - 21:14
Skrivet av Google, 13.09.2016 at 21:02

Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 19:57

So what are you then? Controlled Opposition or the most useless opposition that there is?
3 times has Populares attempted to assassinate people within the last 2 turns yet your faction hasn't moved a finger.

We arnt stupid fool.


Tell me what political move or goal has your faction achieve within the last 10 turns? effectively becoming a puppet of Populares doesn't count.
Calling people fools won't suddenly turn around your crumbling faction from stagnation and doom.




The fact that I -a simple faction less neutral- can mock your faction in public without fear of retribution should be a wake up call to the mockery that your faction has become.
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13.09.2016 - 23:57
Actually it shows how much of a dick you're being and should be a warning to people to stay the fuck away and not join your faction
Tbh I have my suspicions that you were the one to backstab JF, especially with you refusing to return his 6 Shekels even when you didn't do whatever he paid you for.
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14.09.2016 - 00:50
Skrivet av Tundy, 13.09.2016 at 19:29

Skrivet av JF., 13.09.2016 at 18:57

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You and Phoenix got killed off by murderous Populares, yet you much rather fight over shekels.


When did I fight over shekkels?
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14.09.2016 - 07:19
Potesatem is a joke, it is evident by the fact that they supported the disbanding of my legions eventhough it was obviously instigated by the Populares in preperation for their coup. They can't even agree to vote for the same things.
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14.09.2016 - 07:43
Skrivet av Zephyrusu, 14.09.2016 at 07:19

Potesatem is a joke, it is evident by the fact that they supported the disbanding of my legions eventhough it was obviously instigated by the Populares in preperation for their coup. They can't even agree to vote for the same things.

Hue. Populares proposed it, and Potestatem opposed, only to propose the same thing next turn and pass it xaxa
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14.09.2016 - 12:23
Wow the number of disaster rolls Rome is getting is frankly ridiculous and disturbing.
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14.09.2016 - 12:26
==Turn 14: Phase 1 has begun==
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14.09.2016 - 12:32
I propose a Tier I land bill to reduce unrest
And 3 on equite, 10 to Rome.
My cosponsor will be Pyrrhus.
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