2xSP NON removal

Okay, you wanted to hear (read) opposite 'arguments', I will try to bring some from our side (players who dont support 2xSP removal from CWs).
But, it wont include only opinions about 2xSP, I will also touch spheres that are connected to it (example: Clan warring of low ranks)
If you dont want to read all the things, you have it sorted by titles and numbers that belong to those titles.
Yes, it is a little longer cuz I am ill and I have to stay at home so I am bored too and I will have some fun with this.

Titles
1. Why against 2xSP removal (contra on clovis1122's arguments for 2xSP removal)
2. About Mauzer Panteri
3. Low rank Clan wars + my unused suggestion

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1. Why against 2xSP removal

Firstly, I will touch those clovis's (or clovis'es, I am not sure anymore xa) arguments from his thread for 2xSP removal which you can check in original on this link below ----------------------
http://hr.atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16711&topicsearch=&page=1
and one same ones Meester relied in his last thread which you can read on this link below ----------------------------
http://hr.atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=19167&topicsearch=&page=1

So, lets start part by part:
parts from clovis's ('es) thread will be marked with dot (•) and mine contra on that will be marked with (-)

• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
This is only 1 clan war, not average number of won SP in Clan wars. I can compare it with RP (or any other map), where players sometimes reach even 10k SP in one game, but that is not representative number, neither average and this will be more clear after you take a look in statistics below.


• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
Is contra even needed on this kind of argument? I dont know any clan that doesnt care about losing, just about earning SP points. Just not true.
We have ONLY 10 really competitive clans and 10 which comes to play by time. We have 0 clans whose leaders made a secret deal they will play CWs only for 'farming' SP

• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
I have to ask clovis several questions about pointing this argument.. How the hell he is calculating quality of CWs ?? Is there any CwQualityMeter? Or it is invented just in Domenican Republic? (dont get this too personal, pls, I love your country)
Whatsmore, if quality CWs can be played only by Dalmati, Illyria and MK, than bring Dalmati back and have 2 CWs per month, I will be 1st that will abstain from CWs. More CWs include more players with different kind of skills and it is even sexier thing this season than ever before IMO.

• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
Firstly, current active players are familiar with all newest things that are implemented in AW gaming (as new TB system, etc..).
And things they learnt and skills they gained are not like soap that they will just disappear. Whatsmore, random 3v3 games are present in pretty same percentage than before 5. Also, I noticed (I have to mention those clans) my clan, Cosa Nostra, Shadow Aces and Singularity are often having inter-clan trainings (1v1,2v2,3v3).
For conclusion of this hint, I will add Khal's comment in Meester's thread (with Screenshot)


• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
No, just no. I dont know any player who wants to play CW becuase of SP multiper. It is just good thing after a good cw to see you got some bonus for your play for your clan and helping in gaining a win (or loss) to your clan. There is no single player who participates CWs only because of SP. This is silly, but yes, seems like pointing more dots means you have more arguments

• from clovis1122's thread


- contra
I didnt notice that growing of other maps like Ancient, on the contrary, this season there were 2 of max 3 of them. And if certain clan got good squad for Ancient map (as Shadow Aces) and if someone wants to try that kind of CW (as Mortal Kombat did), why not? I dont see any wedded endeavor to earn more SP, I see just 2 clans want to do something different in CW world. And those things are pretty rare.


* Last of arguments of those who are FOR 2xSP removal is that low ranks are not even participating CWs as it was expected.
------------------ This will be explained in my last title (3) about Low rank Clan wars and my abandoned idea.

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2. About Mauzer Panteri
I noticed many of you are pointing on Clan wars of Mauzer Panteri as player who gets ('farms') most from 2xSP.
Whatsmore, those pointings are only at his games that ended with high SP, but that cannot be representative.
If you want to make a representative pattern, you have to include average. There are 2 ways:
- Average between 5 games with most SP and 5 games with lowest SP (I said 5 for example, it can be any number)
- Average of all games (if you have nerves to calculate that as I had xd)

Here is the number of Mauzer's highest, lowest, average of all earned SP from Clan war games THIS season:



Number of CWs played this season: 77
Total amount of collected SP this season: 48448
Highest earned SP from 1 CW this season: 3365
Lowest earned SP from 1 CW this season: 45
Average of all earned SP this season: 629,2

- This is explanation why not to point only on those big amounts of SP from certain game. You can clearly see that average of earned SP from CWs is pretty far away from MAX earned SP from 1 CW. And you cannot use that 1 CW with max SP as your argument. Also, total amount of collected SP cannot be used as argument because it depends on how much active player is in Clan warring, and that is positive thing (if he is more active, ofc)
I think that average of 629,2 SP per CW (NOTICE: take in mind this is only from Mauzer, one of best players and one of most active CW players) is not that extremely giantly highly abnormaly 'farmed' number of SP. Try to imagine now average of other players ............

IF NEEDED, I AM AT YOUR DISPOSAL TO DO AVERAGE FOR EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IF YOU NEED MORE PROOFS FOR THIS.

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3. Low rank Clan wars + my unused suggestion

I agree low ranks are not bringed in CWs as it was thought. Problem is not 2xSP multiper, WE are the problem.
Clan leaders/officer who are taking care only about stronger squad for CWs.
Only thing that is problem is there are lower number of low ranks in strong and competitive clans and nobody takes a care about that, its easier to remove 2xSP than think about maybe we are the reason ?!
I remember I was accepted in evoL as rank 5 or 6 when I didnt know what is TB, what is Clan War, what is Elo, what is Premium, what is 2xSP. I know only to wallfuck fucking wall.


We, higher ranks need to introduce lower ranks step by step into competitive games primarily, 3v3's, trainings than CLAN WARS. They wont find by themselves about 2xSP

And last, I will short it cuz I am going to watch Barcelona-BAYERN, about my suggestion:
I suggested potentially good idea about CLAN WARS FOR LOW RANKS, which was abused by GuyFromTheNetherlands so I removed it.
Opening some kind of low rank Clan War room or something, separated from main one, that will be managed and helped by us, higher ranks, as their mentors and leaders.
Each clan would recruit several lower ranks 4-7 and train them for Lower rank Clan wars (cause >8 got pretty all needed upgrades for including in higher clan war scene).
Or maybe make 2 different clan rankings. One for Main (higher) CWs, one for Lower CWs.
It should give importance feeling to the lower ranks, make more competitive players for future and ensure crazy active future CW seasons.

If you want to know this suggestion with all the details, please quote me or PR me, I will explain you after match ends.


Ty, Croat