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23.05.2016 - 23:21
I have noticed that on maps and scenarios the South Atlantic islands that Argentines (and a huge part of the world) we call Islas Malvinas, appears on these maps only the name of Falklands Islands.

Beyond the policy of each one on this issue, I suggest that on each map name and each scenario name is called as "Islas Malvinas (capital "Puerto Argentino") / Falkland Islands (capital "Port Stanley") , as does Google Maps for the UK. I quote a screenshot.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-51.7786438,-58.5162877,7z?hl=es-419



I suggest this would be a way to create "neutrals" games without enter in political disputes.

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24.05.2016 - 00:43
Falkland islands are argentinian,
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24.05.2016 - 00:47
They are just the Falklands. Britain controls them and exercises sovereignty over them. Any claims to the contrary can only be backed up by force.

If you take the islands for Argentina than sure they will be the Malvinas.
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24.05.2016 - 01:25
>be politically neutral

ok i claim the whole former british empire. For de purpoises of politkal nutrality u shud put in brackets (british empire) next to india, usa, canada and everything. Gogle maps do this it must be rite to do dis.




Fuck off.
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24.05.2016 - 02:32
Skrivet av Xenosapien, 24.05.2016 at 01:25

>be politically neutral

ok i claim the whole former british empire. For de purpoises of politkal nutrality u shud put in brackets (british empire) next to india, usa, canada and everything. Gogle maps do this it must be rite to do dis.




Fuck off.

It's ok, no need to bring your inner-british you out here!
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24.05.2016 - 02:41
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Adding them with fair income and reinf would balance the map a bit to be honest.
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24.05.2016 - 05:38
Skrivet av Guest, 24.05.2016 at 02:41

Adding them with fair income and reinf would balance the map a bit to be honest.

more rp, yes, of course, thats the key to world hunger and world peace
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24.05.2016 - 08:06
 KYBL
Hmmm....
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24.05.2016 - 14:18
Pretty much the entire world except Argentina agrees that Falklands are Falklands, including the inhabitants of the Falklands themselves. Just because some retards from a country that was literally bankrupt a few years ago believe otherwise doesn't make them a disputed territory.
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24.05.2016 - 14:38
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Actually Falkland islands should give pretty good amount of income as they're considered rich with oil, gas and lots of sheeps. Adding it would balance the income of South and Latin America maps.
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24.05.2016 - 14:56
Skrivet av Zephyrusu, 24.05.2016 at 14:18

some retards from a country that was literally bankrupt a few years ago believe otherwise


Greece?
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24.05.2016 - 14:57
Also, those islands you speak of are called Falklands, and they shall be named Falklands aslong as UK holds them. You lost a war over Falklands, get over it.
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24.05.2016 - 16:34
Just like France: New Caledonia, make it UK: Falklands but a separate country.
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24.05.2016 - 18:22
Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 14:57

Also, those islands you speak of are called Falklands, and they shall be named Falklands aslong as UK holds them. You lost a war over Falklands, get over it.


The war does not confer rights over a territory, but the historical and geographical reasons.

Either way, it is not my intention to open a debate on the Malvinas issue. If anyone is interested in a debate on this issue, you can open a thread about it.

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24.05.2016 - 18:34
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Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:22

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 14:57

Also, those islands you speak of are called Falklands, and they shall be named Falklands aslong as UK holds them. You lost a war over Falklands, get over it.


The war does not confer rights over a territory, but the historical and geographical reasons.

Either way, it is not my intention to open a debate on the Malvinas issue. If anyone is interested in a debate on this issue, you can open a thread about it.

Regards.


By that logic argentina is spanish land
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24.05.2016 - 18:35
Independence for Falklands Islands!!!!!!!!!!
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24.05.2016 - 18:46
Skrivet av Evic, 24.05.2016 at 18:34

By that logic argentina is spanish land


Argentina is a sovereign nation recognized by the whole world, including Spain. The world through the United Nations recognizes las Malvinas as a colony and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.
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24.05.2016 - 18:50
Skrivet av DeepFriedUnicorn, 24.05.2016 at 18:35

Independence for Falklands Islands!!!!!!!!!!


That's dangerous for an Irish said that an Argentine.
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24.05.2016 - 19:01
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Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:46

Skrivet av Evic, 24.05.2016 at 18:34

By that logic argentina is spanish land


Argentina is a sovereign nation recognized by the whole world, including Spain. The world through the United Nations recognizes las Malvinas as a colony and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.


How does that change anything?

The reason you are claiming Falklands is because of historical reasons............the same reason why Spain can claim most of South America...
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24.05.2016 - 19:08
Skrivet av Evic, 24.05.2016 at 19:01

How does that change anything?

The reason you are claiming Falklands is because of historical reasons............the same reason why Spain can claim most of South America...


Spain several years that recognized the independence of the American colonies ago. This comparison does not apply to Malvinas.
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24.05.2016 - 19:08
Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:46

Skrivet av Evic, 24.05.2016 at 18:34

By that logic argentina is spanish land


Argentina is a sovereign nation recognized by the whole world, including Spain. The world through the United Nations recognizes las Malvinas as a colony and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.


You can't really consider a colony when they have representation and most of their population is english and has an english culture. They are an Overseas Territory and ultraperipheric region of the EU. I would argue more that French Guyana is closer to a colony than Falklands.

Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:22



The war does not confer rights over a territory, but the historical and geographical reasons.




You invaded it, fought for it, invaded foreign soil and you were defeated. You sort of lost your rights to claim a fully english territory. Doesn't really matter how far you are from the actual metropolis if your population and culture is equal to that of the UK itself.

Following your logic, Kerguelen Islands, who are owned by France, should be claimed by South Africa or Australia? They're close to the Kerguelens than France itself is..

Historical and Geographical reasons aren't exact reasons to claim territories, otherwise europe could claim every non-european territory.
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24.05.2016 - 19:14
Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 19:08

You can't really consider a colony when they have representation and most of their population is english and has an english culture. They are an Overseas Territory and ultraperipheric region of the EU. I would argue more that French Guyana is closer to a colony than Falklands.

You invaded it, fought for it, invaded foreign soil and you were defeated. You sort of lost your rights to claim a fully english territory. Doesn't really matter how far you are from the actual metropolis if your population and culture is equal to that of the UK itself.

Following your logic, Kerguelen Islands, who are owned by France, should be claimed by South Africa or Australia? They're close to the Kerguelens than France itself is..

Historical and Geographical reasons aren't exact reasons to claim territories, otherwise europe could claim every non-european territory.


Your opinion is contrary to international law it says. For one thing, the world recognizes Malvinas as a colony, and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.
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24.05.2016 - 19:21
Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 19:14



Your opinion is contrary to international law it says. For one thing, the world recognizes Malvinas as a colony, and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.



70% of the World is made of former colonies with a deep anti-european culture sentiment or anti-colonial sentiment. I think Falklands are a territory of the United Kingdom.

Like David Cameron said, the Falklanders will continue to be in the United Kingdom aslong as they want.
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24.05.2016 - 19:29
Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 19:21

70% of the World is made of former colonies with a deep anti-european culture sentiment or anti-colonial sentiment. I think Falklands are a territory of the United Kingdom.


I do not share this opinion especially because it is not substantiated.

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 19:21
Like David Cameron said, the Falklanders will continue to be in the United Kingdom aslong as they want.


It is logical to say that. It is the current British position.
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24.05.2016 - 19:31
Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 19:29

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 19:21

70% of the World is made of former colonies with a deep anti-european culture sentiment or anti-colonial sentiment. I think Falklands are a territory of the United Kingdom.


I do not share this opinion especially because it is not substantiated.

Skrivet av Al Fappino, 24.05.2016 at 19:21
Like David Cameron said, the Falklanders will continue to be in the United Kingdom aslong as they want.


It is logical to say that. It is the current British position.



1- Have a look at Africa, Asia, America and Oceania. All of them were colonies of European nations.


2- It's the current British position regarding self-determination within their territory.
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24.05.2016 - 20:25
The principle of self-determination is not applicable to the colonies.
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24.05.2016 - 20:37

- Oh gee... those guys just talking about Falklands and Malvinas. I don't give a shit.
- Che, ai gnow broda. Letsa pley some rugby instead.
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24.05.2016 - 21:20
>makes a thread to try to avoid political disputes
>creates one
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24.05.2016 - 23:03
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Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:22

The war does not confer rights over a territory, but the historical and geographical reasons.

Here we can see the Argentinian claim that because the Falklands was briefly part of Argentina, it is rightfully Argentinian land, despite it having a much longer history under British rule than Argentinian rule. The second claim is that because the Falklands are geographically close to Argentina, it therefore belongs to Argentina somehow, just like how Guam belongs to Japan, Kaliningrad belongs to Poland, and Greenland belongs to Canada.

Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 18:46

Argentina is a sovereign nation recognized by the whole world, including Spain. The world through the United Nations recognizes las Malvinas as a colony and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.

Here the Argie makes two claims. The first is that the world apparently recognizes the Falklands as a colony. The second claim is that international recognition, and not the will of the people who actually live there, is what matters in territorial disputes.

Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 19:14

Your opinion is contrary to international law it says. For one thing, the world recognizes Malvinas as a colony, and not as a legitimate territory of the United Kingdom.

Once again, we see a sweeping claim without any evidence.

Skrivet av Medieval Knight, 24.05.2016 at 20:25

The principle of self-determination is not applicable to the colonies.

And finally, in this statement, the Argie admits that he doesn't actually care about the will of the islanders (who overwhelmingly want to be part of Britain) and he only cares about his retarded nationalism.
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25.05.2016 - 00:33
Skrivet av KYBL, 24.05.2016 at 23:03

And finally, in this statement, the Argie admits that he doesn't actually care about the will of the islanders (who overwhelmingly want to be part of Britain) and he only cares about his retarded nationalism.


First, go with respect, as I do with you and in no time I made fun of your nationality.
Second, if you want to extend the Argentina position on Malvinas, open a topic and taste will bring everything I can. If you look the purpose of this topic is not just open a debate.
And finally, do not put intentions in me that I not speak up. Any questions you have about what I think about a subject, ask me, okay ?.

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