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Inlagd av Abraham, 11.01.2018 - 05:53
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/09/netanyahu-israel-helped-stop-terror-attacks-planes-europe/amp/

If Israel hadn't warned the European countries about the terrorists plots, where do you think the terrorists would've crashed the planes into? And would war broke out led by European coalition against radical Islam? Also what you as Europeans would feel about Muslims?
11.01.2018 - 15:09
Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:06

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:57

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:53

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:29

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:12

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

The research and manufacture of your tanks was paid for by the US. Your helicopters, transport planes, fighter aircraft and missiles are american.

1. we buy the missiles and fighters and whatever in a fair price
2. they didn't pay for the tanks reasearch but let's say they did, does it make it thiers?
3. for those who have wounder (like yourself) the american support is less than 10% of the IDF budget
4. evrey reasearch america pays for they get thier own part, Israel doesn't share Merkava IV with any country, that make sure that america didn't pay for it if you don't understand.
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Free Palestine
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HAHAHAHa you got rekt by trying to be smart so you try to annoy me? so childrish. not working
cry
it's like I say ireland sucks all the people there are cowards after losing
no point

Edited it with facts just to make you happy.

where are the facts?
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11.01.2018 - 15:09
I swear to god Kappa escalates this on purpose
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11.01.2018 - 15:10
Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:09

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:06

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:57

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:53

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:29

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:12

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

The research and manufacture of your tanks was paid for by the US. Your helicopters, transport planes, fighter aircraft and missiles are american.

1. we buy the missiles and fighters and whatever in a fair price
2. they didn't pay for the tanks reasearch but let's say they did, does it make it thiers?
3. for those who have wounder (like yourself) the american support is less than 10% of the IDF budget
4. evrey reasearch america pays for they get thier own part, Israel doesn't share Merkava IV with any country, that make sure that america didn't pay for it if you don't understand.
cry more

Free Palestine
cry more

HAHAHAHa you got rekt by trying to be smart so you try to annoy me? so childrish. not working
cry
it's like I say ireland sucks all the people there are cowards after losing
no point

Edited it with facts just to make you happy.

where are the facts?

I'd advise you to get some glasses. American, of course.
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11.01.2018 - 15:12
Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:10

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:09

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:06

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:57

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:53

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:29

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:12

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

The research and manufacture of your tanks was paid for by the US. Your helicopters, transport planes, fighter aircraft and missiles are american.

1. we buy the missiles and fighters and whatever in a fair price
2. they didn't pay for the tanks reasearch but let's say they did, does it make it thiers?
3. for those who have wounder (like yourself) the american support is less than 10% of the IDF budget
4. evrey reasearch america pays for they get thier own part, Israel doesn't share Merkava IV with any country, that make sure that america didn't pay for it if you don't understand.
cry more

Free Palestine
cry more

HAHAHAHa you got rekt by trying to be smart so you try to annoy me? so childrish. not working
cry
it's like I say ireland sucks all the people there are cowards after losing
no point

Edited it with facts just to make you happy.

where are the facts?

I'd advise you to get some glasses. American, of course.

Hahahaha good one, irish coward telling us how army gets his money
where are the facts I can't see
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11.01.2018 - 15:14
 Oleg
Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:08

Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:01

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

that tank name Merkhava is actually similiar to word marḥaban (arabian word, means"to make welcome, to receive graciously"), so you actually received tanks from Arabia?



"מֶרְכָּבָה
carriage, hansom, chariot ; (military) Merkava (Israeli-made tank)"

so that word is from arabian?
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11.01.2018 - 15:14
Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:12

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:10

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:09

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:06

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:57

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:53

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:29

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:12

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

The research and manufacture of your tanks was paid for by the US. Your helicopters, transport planes, fighter aircraft and missiles are american.

1. we buy the missiles and fighters and whatever in a fair price
2. they didn't pay for the tanks reasearch but let's say they did, does it make it thiers?
3. for those who have wounder (like yourself) the american support is less than 10% of the IDF budget
4. evrey reasearch america pays for they get thier own part, Israel doesn't share Merkava IV with any country, that make sure that america didn't pay for it if you don't understand.
cry more

Free Palestine
cry more

HAHAHAHa you got rekt by trying to be smart so you try to annoy me? so childrish. not working
cry
it's like I say ireland sucks all the people there are cowards after losing
no point

Edited it with facts just to make you happy.

where are the facts?

I'd advise you to get some glasses. American, of course.

Hahahaha good one, irish coward telling us how army gets his money
where are the facts I can't see

I detect quite a lot of salt. Go back to my original post, thats how the forums work.
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11.01.2018 - 15:15
Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:14

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:12

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:10

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:09

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 15:06

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:57

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:53

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 14:29

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 14:12

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

The research and manufacture of your tanks was paid for by the US. Your helicopters, transport planes, fighter aircraft and missiles are american.

1. we buy the missiles and fighters and whatever in a fair price
2. they didn't pay for the tanks reasearch but let's say they did, does it make it thiers?
3. for those who have wounder (like yourself) the american support is less than 10% of the IDF budget
4. evrey reasearch america pays for they get thier own part, Israel doesn't share Merkava IV with any country, that make sure that america didn't pay for it if you don't understand.
cry more

Free Palestine
cry more

HAHAHAHa you got rekt by trying to be smart so you try to annoy me? so childrish. not working
cry
it's like I say ireland sucks all the people there are cowards after losing
no point

Edited it with facts just to make you happy.

where are the facts?

I'd advise you to get some glasses. American, of course.

Hahahaha good one, irish coward telling us how army gets his money
where are the facts I can't see

I detect quite a lot of salt. Go back to my original post, thats how the forums work.

You made like 10 unless smartass no point posts, can you tell me which mercy on my eyes.
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11.01.2018 - 15:16
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 11.01.2018 at 15:09

I swear to god Kappa escalates this on purpose

Sorry for not asslicking and go when my mind tells me
that's me
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11.01.2018 - 15:19
Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:16

Sorry for not asslicking and go when my mind tells me
that's me


K I am out of here good luck
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11.01.2018 - 15:20
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 11.01.2018 at 15:19

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 15:16

Sorry for not asslicking and go when my mind tells me
that's me


good luck

have fun
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11.01.2018 - 15:23
Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:14

Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:08

Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:01

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

that tank name Merkhava is actually similiar to word marḥaban (arabian word, means"to make welcome, to receive graciously"), so you actually received tanks from Arabia?



"מֶרְכָּבָה
carriage, hansom, chariot ; (military) Merkava (Israeli-made tank)"

so that word is from arabian?

It's a Hebrew word. The Arabic word, which is similar to Hebrew, is pronounced as MarHaba, while the Hebrew word is pronounced as MerKava. Both words mean different things. Marhaba is hello/welcome. Merkava is carriage.
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11.01.2018 - 15:25
 Oleg
Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:23

Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:14

Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:08

Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:01

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 13:04

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

We have 0 american tanks in Israel
We make our own tank and it called Merkhava
since the 50's we didn't have even a single american tank
cry now

that tank name Merkhava is actually similiar to word marḥaban (arabian word, means"to make welcome, to receive graciously"), so you actually received tanks from Arabia?



"מֶרְכָּבָה
carriage, hansom, chariot ; (military) Merkava (Israeli-made tank)"

so that word is from arabian?

It's a Hebrew word. The Arabic word, which is similar to Hebrew, is pronounced as MarHaba, while the Hebrew word is pronounced as MerKava. Both words mean different things. Marhaba is hello/welcome. Merkava is carriage.

Ttt. tank received graciously from Arabia, from Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud...
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11.01.2018 - 15:42
I regret creating this thread.
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11.01.2018 - 15:43
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11.01.2018 - 15:50
 Oleg
Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:42

I regret creating this thread.

What did you expect? You are here fro 6 years and yet you think this community won't have this reaction, I was completely unserious trolling, but see the rest, tttt... This topic was made to start one more flamewar about muslims, we all know they are all radical, who cares anymore?
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11.01.2018 - 16:00
Skrivet av Oleg, 11.01.2018 at 15:50

Skrivet av Abraham, 11.01.2018 at 15:42

I regret creating this thread.

You are here fro 6 years and yet you think

7*
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11.01.2018 - 16:05
No autoplays.
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11.01.2018 - 22:18
Skrivet av Guest, 11.01.2018 at 14:52

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

or their military funding.

or any funding
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11.01.2018 - 22:58
 Oleg
Skrivet av Viruslegion, 11.01.2018 at 22:18

Skrivet av Guest, 11.01.2018 at 14:52

Skrivet av Wheelo, 11.01.2018 at 13:03

Skrivet av Davy Jones, 11.01.2018 at 12:39

They don't deserve it


You don't deserve all those American tanks.

or their military funding.

or any funding

Agree, USA should fund Serbia as much as they fund Israel, we would be major powah in europe...
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12.01.2018 - 07:59
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 11.01.2018 at 14:38

Even the most independent countries in the west in term of weaponry markets - France Germany and UK buy american weaponry in massive numbers. so is Ireland.

On the other hand. American Jets and Missiles use Israeli techlonogy as well.

The French and Germans are stockpiling these weapons should a war ever break out. The US however is arming an ongoing conflict and is arming the aggressor. That is a whole different story my friend.
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12.01.2018 - 08:40
Skrivet av Wheelo, 12.01.2018 at 07:59

The French and Germans are stockpiling these weapons should a war ever break out.


In the last 40 years the French fought more wars in Africa than USA all over the world.

Skrivet av Wheelo, 12.01.2018 at 07:59

The US however is arming an ongoing conflict

USA is arming everyone in the middle east. for instance after Mubarrak fell they congratulated the muslim brotherhood by giving them brand new F-16s squad. they yearly fund all Israeli neighbors except Syria and including the PLO. Israel is getting extra fund due past agreements with the USA (as security and balance gurantees for leaving Sinai for instance). and due the fact unlike other funded nations Israel nearly ignores the competing european weaponry market and fills all its need in the american market. (and ofcourse due extra motivations like loyalty and lobbying of American weaponry companies who earn alot from these funds because they know Israel will use it to buy from them).

Skrivet av Wheelo, 12.01.2018 at 07:59

arming the aggressor.


Execuse me. can you name one war that Israel has started?
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12.01.2018 - 11:55
 Oleg
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 12.01.2018 at 08:40

In the last 40 years the French fought more wars in Africa than USA all over the world.

Notorious lie, watchout, every word you say has its own weight.
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12.01.2018 - 12:13
Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 11:55

Notorious lie, watchout, every word you say has its own weight.


A year ago when they invaded Mali i readed an article of all their 19 military interventions in africa since the 80s. I could'nt dig deep enough for that article but here are some quick google results

http://www.businessinsider.com/frances-military-is-all-over-africa-2015-1
http://www.westafricasecuritynetwork.org/the-french-military-in-africa-successes-challenges-ahead/
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/07/france-slowly-reclaiming-its-old-african-empire-280635.html
https://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/07/france-africa
https://www.worldpittsburgh.org/the-french-legacy-in-africa/
https://www.npr.org/2013/12/15/251171604/once-again-french-troops-intervene-in-africa
https://limacharlienews.com/mena/france-us-africa/


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12.01.2018 - 12:43
 Oleg
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 12.01.2018 at 12:13

Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 11:55

Notorious lie, watchout, every word you say has its own weight.


A year ago when they invaded Mali i readed an article of all their 19 military interventions in africa since the 80s. I could'nt dig deep enough for that article but here are some quick google results

http://www.businessinsider.com/frances-military-is-all-over-africa-2015-1
http://www.westafricasecuritynetwork.org/the-french-military-in-africa-successes-challenges-ahead/
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/07/france-slowly-reclaiming-its-old-african-empire-280635.html
https://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/07/france-africa
https://www.worldpittsburgh.org/the-french-legacy-in-africa/
https://www.npr.org/2013/12/15/251171604/once-again-french-troops-intervene-in-africa
https://limacharlienews.com/mena/france-us-africa/




HAHAHAHAAHAH Invade xd you use links like you are Tito, again. Most of french interventions in Africa since 80s aren't to poor countries and then buy cheap resources from them (khm america), french military in those cuntries battled against extremist groups and preventing them to approach capitals. Next time, before deciding what word to use, "intervention" or "invasion" (since you used both in post above, and they have different meaning to be used like that) read about those "invasions", and not just some low-populated and not respected news sites.
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12.01.2018 - 13:56
Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 12:43

HAHAHAHAAHAH Invade xd you use links like you are Tito, again. Most of french interventions in Africa since 80s aren't to poor countries and then buy cheap resources from them (khm america), french military in those cuntries battled against extremist groups and preventing them to approach capitals. Next time, before deciding what word to use, "intervention" or "invasion" (since you used both in post above, and they have different meaning to be used like that) read about those "invasions", and not just some low-populated and not respected news sites.


Fair enough. I was arrogant and to make it up I will start gathering more data.

But anyways, the whole point of this debate was Wheelo claim that France gets American weapons for purely good purposes and Israel for bad purposes. one way or another I still insist that is just wrong no matter how bad their enemy is. I did'nt see their intervention in places like Congo or Eritrea. and even their motives are purely to aid against terrorism and defend themselves. It's the exact same purpose of the Israeli army.
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12.01.2018 - 14:24
 Oleg
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 12.01.2018 at 13:56

Wheelo claim that France gets American weapons for purely good purposes and Israel for bad purposes.

He is right... But I understand Israel, they must fulfill american wishes since they get those weapons for free...
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12.01.2018 - 14:27
Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 14:24

He is right...


Did you fail to quote the end of the sentence or that's a joke?
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12.01.2018 - 14:39
Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 14:24

He is right... But I understand Israel, they must fulfill american wishes since they get those weapons for free...

1. He is not right. we just covered it. are you trolling?

How exactly do we fill their wishes?
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12.01.2018 - 14:53
Skrivet av Rock Lee, 12.01.2018 at 14:39

Skrivet av Oleg, 12.01.2018 at 14:24

He is right... But I understand Israel, they must fulfill american wishes since they get those weapons for free...

1. He is not right. we just covered it. are you trolling?

How exactly do we fill their wishes?

Being democratic
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12.01.2018 - 16:18
Skrivet av Guest, 12.01.2018 at 16:13

You are a permanent semi-stable puppet state in the middle east.


Not quiet true.

We do have small scale wars for short periods of times but look at stability in terms of economy society and democracy Israel is very stable country - economy always grows rapidly. minorities very well integrated. Democracy is everyone's wish and parties regularry replace each other and no soon threath to come from the Inside or major one from the outside. Israel looks very stable especially when you compares it to its neighbors.

We do rely alot on the US and therefore they pressure us to do lot of things as they will. but considering the backup that we get and our growth and stability since isolation ended it is fair.

Also. the USA is not to be blamed for the war our enemies start aganist us. it started way before they were involved in the middle east. it has more to do with ideology and identity and the way authorities promote themselves than foreign intervention
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