To who say ISIS are muslims

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 07:11

I think you are heavily underestimating the power of medias.

Whatever is it, I am confident about most mulish being rather good people and sane followers of the Islam. So far I've never hear anything related to terrorism from Indonesia, which holds the largest mulish population in the world.

Medias are so strong, that a dog who dies in U.S would receive more covering than all the people who dies everyday in Syria, just like with Rwanda's genocide in the 1980's . Of course it varies depending of your country. Here in Dominican Republic back when the Boston attempt, it was covered in almost all local news (with "covered" I don't mean just show the new and that is, but a many pages of the news dedicated to it in different days. It was also broadcast in Tv quite a lot of times).

To sum up, it doesn't matter if you are good or many people from your community are good. It is all about how the medias broadcast it.

No question media will always be highly influencial aswell as highly disproportionate in it's coverage.
Not sure how this relates to the case I made though. Could you maybe elaborate on that? What's the connection between your and my post?

Also, this might be of interest to you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Indonesia

Remove kebab and islam

Skrivet av learster, 21.11.2015 at 10:32

No question media will always be highly influencial aswell as highly disproportionate in it's coverage.
Not sure how this relates to the case I made though. Could you maybe elaborate on that? What's the connection between your and my post?

Skrivet av learster, 15.11.2015 at 06:20

The best way to show the world that not all muslims are terrorists, or that ISIS are not muslims, is not by going on the internet and pointing it out. Western people who think like this won't be persuaded by a meme picture such as the one you posted. The best you can do to persuade them is by picking up the ideological war against ISIS for which you are better equipped with your interpretation of the Qur'an than any fighter jet currently bombing ISIS will ever be.

You've advice him to start an ideological war against ISIS and convince the world that "Not all mulish are terrorists, and that ISIS is not Mulish".

But the question is... if such war started, do you think it would receive at least 1/10 views of what ISIS propaganda does? How much westerns people would actually believe it, but the ones who are mulish?

For 1 media who sees the ideological war and maybe write a comment about it, maybe 20 people sees it and thinks "Oh right, not all Muslims are terrorist"....

... there would'be probably 20 medias who announces ISIS terrorism, while not specifying more but that they are Muslim (Medias usually does this for short information). And probably 1,000 people would see it and thinks "Woah, savages! Muslims are terrorist!".

And how much people would actually share the ideological war through social medias, to help it propagate and spread it around the world? Probably Muslim people (and not even all of them).

What I've said before is that it doesn't really matters if the Muslims organize themselves and start such "ideological war" against ISIS... If it doesn't receive a proper cover in the medias then it will accomplish nothing. Rather than that I would suggest to start a smarter propaganda that aims for the same but using effective methods One example is to appeal directly to the west people feeling, method that was used before (Mexican in the U.S back when thump posted his racist comments) and showed some good results. People goes and put something in their body with expressions like "Do you think I'm criminal? Hug me if you doesn't." and related.

inmigrants are already using this method and it received propaganda in my country. Here is an example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323556/Hug-trust-m-told-m-terrorist-Muslim-asks-people-embrace-centre-Paris-symbol-peace-hundreds-heartwarming-video.html

Skrivet av learster, 21.11.2015 at 10:32

Also, this might be of interest to you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Indonesia

Thanks for the link.

I had already checked the spanish wikipedia and found no relevant information related to terrorism there. It probably doesn't get broadcast as much as the terrorism in rest of the countries.

Skrivet av IronWill, 21.11.2015 at 11:38

Remove kebab and islam

We can remove you

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 13:36

You've advice him to start an ideological war against ISIS and convince the world that "Not all mulish are terrorists, and that ISIS is not Mulish".

But the question is... if such war started, do you think it would receive at least 1/10 views of what ISIS propaganda does? How much westerns people would actually believe it, but the ones who are mulish?

For 1 media who sees the ideological war and maybe write a comment about it, maybe 20 people sees it and thinks "Oh right, not all Muslims are terrorist"....

... there would'be probably 20 medias who announces ISIS terrorism, while not specifying more but that they are Muslim (Medias usually does this for short information). And probably 1,000 people would see it and thinks "Woah, savages! Muslims are terrorist!".

And how much people would actually share the ideological war through social medias, to help it propagate and spread it around the world? Probably Muslim people (and not even all of them).

What I've said before is that it doesn't really matters if the Muslims organize themselves and start such "ideological war" against ISIS... If it doesn't receive a proper cover in the medias then it will accomplish nothing. Rather than that I would suggest to start a smarter propaganda that aims for the same but using effective methods One example is to appeal directly to the west people feeling, method that was used before (Mexican in the U.S back when thump posted his racist comments) and showed some good results. People goes and put something in their body with expressions like "Do you think I'm criminal? Hug me if you doesn't." and related.

inmigrants are already using this method and it received propaganda in my country. Here is an example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323556/Hug-trust-m-told-m-terrorist-Muslim-asks-people-embrace-centre-Paris-symbol-peace-hundreds-heartwarming-video.html

You missed the point there for a little. I didn't make the case for grand media campaigns, quite the contrary actually.
I'm wishing for a response that is more inward directed, rather than outwards towards media and mass appeal. People who join ISIS are taken out of the midsts of active muslim communities. There's a lot of insightful articles on the tactics ISIS and other radicals employ in order to lure good people amongst their midsts.
Most of them have one thing in common: there's one point where a tighter and more inclusive community could have made a difference. It's always the weakest members of the community that fall behind and are the most vurnable to radicalisation.
This extends to the general society too, not just muslim communities. We are very good at excluding and alienating each other, which is why there are so many random people going on killing sprees nowadays. We need to learn to be more welcoming towards each other and examine our social conduct, instead of repeating ever the same empty gestures on media that do nothing to even scratch the surface of the problems we face.

Listen to this guy to get an idea: https://youtu.be/unChw6UHHE8
He starts speaking English after a minute or so. His Islam is quite beautiful and powerful.

In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent
Allah (ta'ala) said, They thought that their fortresses would protect them from Allah but Allah came upon them from where they had not expected, and He cast terror into their hearts so they destroyed their houses by their own hands and the hands of the believers. So take warning, O people of vision [Al-Hashr:2].
In a blessed battle whose causes of success were enabled by Allah, a group of believers from the soldiers of the Caliphate (may Allah strengthen and support it) set out targeting the capital of prostitution and vice, the lead carrier of the cross in Europe — Paris. This group of believers were youth who divorced the worldly life and advanced towards their enemy hoping to be killed for Allah's sake, doing so in support of His religion, His Prophet (blessing and peace be upon him), and His allies. They did so in spite of His enemies. Thus, they were truthful with Allah — we consider them so — and Allah granted victory upon their hands and cast terror into the hearts of the crusaders in their very own homeland.

Statement by ISIS following Paris. If you read this and conclude that ISIS aren't Muslims you are seriously retarded.

Skrivet av learster, 21.11.2015 at 15:36

I've saw half of the video.

For what I could read it seems than rather than showing the world that Muslim are not evil, you (and the guy from the video) goes for the way of teaching the western people to judge everybody equally.

My english is not very good but for what I could understand, he say at minute 6:28:

Citera:

"[...] but let me tell you one thing. As the offensive that goes through[...], it is equally offensive to do something in prophet's name, in Islam's name, in Allah's name [...] that's the great teach of the Islam. It is equally offensive. When they (terrorist) are spreading dirty propaganda about the Islam, by insulting the religion, you are spreading another type of propaganda about the Islam, by spreading hate and kill and you now, injustices, and calling that the dim of allah. That is also a lie, and we are equally offended by that too".

Just saying, that is very unlikely to happen. It is inherent from the humanity to judge others based on what they know about that person.

We will always judge based in what we know... and in the medias we can constantly see Muslim who are terrorists and owns weapons, rapes and murder their population.

If you only know this about Muslim, and you were to met one... wouldn't you assume that the person is pretty much a terrorist?

To counter the medias, Muslim need to talk more. They need to make themselves know to the world for what they really are. This is exactly what some Muslim are doing and what, in my pure opinion, more Muslim should do. But this last paragraph can only be accomplished through medias campaign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

If I grow a beard and wear a rag thingy, does that make me Muslim?

Skrivet av Skittzophrenic, 21.11.2015 at 17:55

If I grow a beard and wear a rag thingy, does that make me Muslim?

only if you also marry a 9 year old

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 21.11.2015 at 16:06

Statement by ISIS following Paris. If you read this and conclude that ISIS aren't Muslims you are seriously retarded.

By the way, I read it and conclude that ISIS are not Muslims. But this is just because due to the video that learster put I already have knowledge about the Islam and Qur'an.

If you had knowledge about the Qur'an you would conclude the same. "Not everybody who speaks about Islam is Mulish. It also makes sense that those who interpreters it wrong aren't considered Mulish".

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 20:25

By the way, I read it and conclude that ISIS are not Muslims. But this is just because due to the video that learster put I already have knowledge about the Islam and Qur'an.

If you had knowledge about the Qur'an you would conclude the same. "Not everybody who speaks about Islam is Mulish. It also makes sense that those who interpreters it wrong aren't considered Mulish".

Then you sir are retarded. There is nothing that makes one Islamic group's interpretation of the Koran any more legitimate than another's. Some Muslims interpret it to mean violence and some don't. Deal with it.

There is a fine line between a sensible discussion and hate speech in matters like this, lets not cross it.

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 21.11.2015 at 21:52

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 20:25

By the way, I read it and conclude that ISIS are not Muslims. But this is just because due to the video that learster put I already have knowledge about the Islam and Qur'an.

If you had knowledge about the Qur'an you would conclude the same. "Not everybody who speaks about Islam is Mulish. It also makes sense that those who interpreters it wrong aren't considered Mulish".

Then you sir are retarded. There is nothing that makes one Islamic group's interpretation of the Koran any more legitimate than another's. Some Muslims interpret it to mean violence and some don't. Deal with it.

If you dont agree with acqui you are retarded.

How do you call Isis as muslims when they do things which are prohibited in Islam? Such as suiciding,killing innocents ect??? If you really call isis as muslims then you are the one who is retard. I know that you kids in illyria were such islamophobic people but it all comes from ignorance. No one ever blamed christians for ww2, no one even blamed germany, but everyone blamed nazis and hitler, no one blamed jjews for genocide in palestine, no one blamed christians and orthodox for ww1, so why blame muslims for some acts of lunatics who call themself as muslims?

You speak out of hate, i speak with facts. If you think isis is muslims just because you say so, then i repeat, you are the one whos retarded

You all are fags.
Let's stop this flame war with next sentence:
"All muslims arent terrorists,but all terrorists are muslims."

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 16:55

We will always judge based in what we know... and in the medias we can constantly see Muslim who are terrorists and owns weapons, rapes and murder their population.

lol no, the media is politically correct and therefore pro-muslim.

Skrivet av clovis1122, 21.11.2015 at 16:55

If you only know this about Muslim, and you were to met one... wouldn't you assume that the person is pretty much a terrorist?

a small poll done on muslim-americans:

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

Skrivet av AlBoZzZ, 22.11.2015 at 00:32

How do you call Isis as muslims when they do things which are prohibited in Islam? Such as suiciding,killing innocents ect??? If you really call isis as muslims then you are the one who is retard. I know that you kids in illyria were such islamophobic people but it all comes from ignorance. No one ever blamed christians for ww2, no one even blamed germany, but everyone blamed nazis and hitler, no one blamed jjews for genocide in palestine, no one blamed christians and orthodox for ww1, so why blame muslims for some acts of lunatics who call themself as muslims?

Well according to the Quran stealing, gambling, disrespecting your parents are also prohibited. Does that mean if you do these things you aren't a Muslim anymore? According to the Bible lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments. Does that mean if I tell a lie I'm no longer a Christian? Don't be absurd.

I'm not islamophobic just because I accept that ISIS are an Islamic terrorist organization, it's just plain common sense. They are motivated by extremist religious ideology and their name is literally ISLAMIC STATE. Where in my original post did I blame all muslims for the acts of a few lunatics? Hint: I didn't

Your parallels to WWII and Nazis are asinine. Yes, people of all religions have done terrible things but WWI was not fought OVER religion. The Nazis may have been mostly Christian but they were not MOTIVATED by religion. If you can't see the difference between that and a Muslim terrorist screaming "I'm doing this for Allah" and blowing himself up you are seriously deluded. Keep the elementary school tier arguments to yourself because this feels like I'm arguing with a child.

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 21.11.2015 at 16:06

In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent
Allah (ta'ala) said, They thought that their fortresses would protect them from Allah but Allah came upon them from where they had not expected, and He cast terror into their hearts so they destroyed their houses by their own hands and the hands of the believers. So take warning, O people of vision [Al-Hashr:2].
In a blessed battle whose causes of success were enabled by Allah, a group of believers from the soldiers of the Caliphate (may Allah strengthen and support it) set out targeting the capital of prostitution and vice, the lead carrier of the cross in Europe — Paris. This group of believers were youth who divorced the worldly life and advanced towards their enemy hoping to be killed for Allah's sake, doing so in support of His religion, His Prophet (blessing and peace be upon him), and His allies. They did so in spite of His enemies. Thus, they were truthful with Allah — we consider them so — and Allah granted victory upon their hands and cast terror into the hearts of the crusaders in their very own homeland.

Statement by ISIS following Paris. If you read this and conclude that ISIS aren't Muslims you are seriously retarded.

so cuz these 10k noobs you mean that 1.5 billion muslims are retard?

OK my question is ( if isis is muslim why they bombed 3 mosque in saudi arabia and 1 mosque in kuwait? ) Have you ever seen someone bombs the place where he pray? easy: no... or you think that mosques for jews not muslims? ok fuck this!

Skrivet av Kromn, 22.11.2015 at 00:37

You all are fags.
Let's stop this flame war with next sentence:
"All muslims arent terrorists,but all terrorists are muslims."

you mean these jews army who lives in palestine aren't terrorists? if they are men they give him a weapons and fight 1v1 but they are chicken and scaried

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 22.11.2015 at 02:06

Does that mean if I tell a lie I'm no longer a Christian?

Yes, it means that you are no longer a Christian. Same applies for ISIS.

Absurd? Absurd is that you still consider yourself a Christian after breaking their own rules. Lucky for Christians though, the god they believe in would forgive them as long as they pray for their sins and stop doing them again.

/argument.

Skrivet av Guest, 22.11.2015 at 05:36

Skrivet av Kromn, 22.11.2015 at 00:37

You all are fags.
Let's stop this flame war with next sentence:
"All muslims arent terrorists,but all terrorists are muslims."

you mean these jews army who lives in palestine aren't terrorists? if they are men they give him a weapons and fight 1v1 but they are chicken and scaried

that's the most chicken and pathetic message i'v ever seen, if you can't protect your argument just shut up

Skrivet av Rock Lee, 22.11.2015 at 06:50

Skrivet av Guest, 22.11.2015 at 05:36

Skrivet av Kromn, 22.11.2015 at 00:37

You all are fags.
Let's stop this flame war with next sentence:
"All muslims arent terrorists,but all terrorists are muslims."

you mean these jews army who lives in palestine aren't terrorists? if they are men they give him a weapons and fight 1v1 but they are chicken and scaried

that's the most chicken and pathetic message i'v ever seen, if you can't protect your argument just shut up

you are the cancer of offtopic

Skrivet av Guest, 22.11.2015 at 08:11

you are the cancer of offtopic

you keep approving my claim

I was having the exact same argument with Yeomanry in another thread. What I concluded is that our definitions of Muslim isn't the same. When I(and probably others with the same arguments) say Muslim I mean Muslim to Allah (following Islam the way God wanted). This is 100% unknown and nobody can truly claim if someone is a Muslim or not, but I mean the general idea of a person bombing themselves up is obviously not Muslim. Then again, this is from my perspective. You guys argue that they interpret the Qur'an in a different way and I accept that logic. But isn't it obvious that you should accept the whole Qur'an and follow it all not just taking specific verses and putting them out of context like what the so called Islamic State do. ANYTHING can be taken out of context and meaning a whole different thing, and the Qur'an is no different. If you can prove that they take the whole of Qur'an and not just specific verses and interpreted it in such a way that it shapes the way they act then I will accept the fact that the idea of ISIS is in fact possibly Muslim to Allah. That is probably impossible though, because the Qur'an clearly states not to kill innocent people (unless you can prove that everyone ISIS has ever killed is an enemy to them justifiable by the Qur'an), not to strike fear in people's hearts, to promote peace and love, and many other things. Basically my point is to prove ISIS as a terrorist organization is Muslim then you must prove that they accept the Qur'an as a whole, and that is impossible because their actions are directly contradictive (not a word I know, deal with it!) to the Holy Book however way they logically interpret it. Which brings me to my next point: they aren't logical so they may even accept the Qur'an as a whole but are completely blind to the parts where their actions are contradicting. Like I've stated before; the idea of radical Muslim is illogical only present in illogical people because Islam in essence is a religion of balance and moderation.

Before going on in this thread please consider what you consider as Muslim. Do you mean:
1. Muslim to Allah (nobody knows, but we can accept that the general idea of someone killing someone else is not Muslim),
2. Considered and accepted as Muslim by others, perhaps official organizations,
3. Think they're Muslim (and they really are Muslim in their view),
4. An illogical and radical bad derivative of Islam.

As you can see several different definitions of Muslim can be claimed and maybe you're not arguing that they're true Muslims to Allah.

On a rather off-topic note: It's refreshing to see that some people actually recognize that all and perhaps a small minority or none of Muslims are terrorists and our religion is actually a kind and peaceful one. The west has given me the impression that you're all anti-Islam and possibly anti-religion (maybe in USA).

Skrivet av Guest, 22.11.2015 at 05:21

so cuz these 10k noobs you mean that 1.5 billion muslims are retard?

OK my question is ( if isis is muslim why they bombed 3 mosque in saudi arabia and 1 mosque in kuwait? ) Have you ever seen someone bombs the place where he pray? easy: no... or you think that mosques for jews not muslims? ok fuck this!

I never said anything about the intelligence of any Muslims, just Westerners that believe this garbage that ISIS aren't Muslim. You must be having trouble with my English. As for bombing mosques, they likely did that because they hate all other Muslims they consider to be false Muslims. (Ironically, the same position you are taking right now!)

Skrivet av clovis1122, 22.11.2015 at 06:41

Yes, it means that you are no longer a Christian. Same applies for ISIS.

Absurd? Absurd is that you still consider yourself a Christian after breaking their own rules. Lucky for Christians though, the god they believe in would forgive them as long as they pray for their sins and stop doing them again.

/argument.

Clovis I'm gonna stop replying to you here because honestly I've never had anything constructive come out of an argument with you. It also says in the Bible that if a woman has sex outside of marriage she should be stoned. Am I not a Christian if I don't do this? What about if I eat lobster? The Bible prohibits eating shellfish, am I still a Christian? I honestly don't have the effort to respond to such ludicrous arguments. By your definition the only real Christians and Muslims are people that follow the words of their holy books to the letter which is literally impossible. People pick and choose what they like from these books and follow only those parts which is exactly what ISIS are doing.

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 22.11.2015 at 10:56

Skrivet av clovis1122, 22.11.2015 at 06:41

Lucky for Christians though, the god they believe in would forgive them as long as they pray for their sins and stop doing them again.

By your definition the only real Christians and Muslims are people that follow the words of their holy books to the letter which is literally impossible.

Which is why (once again) the own religion ask you to always pray for your sins, so god can forgive you.

But I am not here to give you biblical lesson, either. Good luck with whatever you believe in.

Skrivet av The Tactician, 22.11.2015 at 10:07

Basically my point is to prove ISIS as a terrorist organization is Muslim then you must prove that they accept the Qur'an as a whole, and that is impossible because their actions are directly contradictive (not a word I know, deal with it!) to the Holy Book however way they logically interpret it. Which brings me to my next point: they aren't logical so they may even accept the Qur'an as a whole but are completely blind to the parts where their actions are contradicting. Like I've stated before; the idea of radical Muslim is illogical only present in illogical people because Islam in essence is a religion of balance and moderation.

Except moderate Muslims don't accept the whole of the Quran either so by that definition nobody is really a Muslim. Moderates are guilty of the same thing ISIS does only they pick the nicer parts that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Something tells me you moderate Muslims don't focus on this quote very much eh?

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 22.11.2015 at 11:03

Skrivet av The Tactician, 22.11.2015 at 10:07

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Except moderate Muslims don't accept the whole of the Quran either so by that definition nobody is really a Muslim. Moderates are guilty of the same thing ISIS does only they pick the nicer parts that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Something tells me you moderate Muslims don't focus on this quote very much eh?

Another example of a perfectly out of context quote. Next time please quote the whole verse...



As you can see God is clearly instructing the angels and not the humans. I'll give you this: I see how ISIS can interpret that wrong, but again they wouldn't accept the whole Qur'an or else they'd be contradicting it with their actions.

Anyway, I'm genuinely curious where you or anyone else get this stuff; specific verses from the Qur'an that show 'how bad it is'. Do you like, google it? Or is there a specific source made by someone who hates Islam or something? Assuming you google it, and then it directs you to said source.

Skrivet av The Tactician, 22.11.2015 at 11:24

As you can see God is clearly instructing the angels and not the humans. I'll give you this: I see how ISIS can interpret that wrong, but again they wouldn't accept the whole Qur'an or else they'd be contradicting it with their actions.

Anyway, I'm genuinely curious where you or anyone else get this stuff; specific verses from the Qur'an that show 'how bad it is'. Do you like, google it? Or is there a specific source made by someone who hates Islam or something? Assuming you google it, and then it directs you to said source.

I remembered that quote from a youtube I watched a long while ago and googled it for the verse number. Anyways, my point is that people cherrypick verses they like and interpret these books the way they like. You do it, ISIS does it, Christians do it. Yes, some interpretations are "better" than others but ultimately there is no religious authority that can dictate who is a real Muslim and who isn't.

Video on "context" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 22.11.2015 at 12:12

Skrivet av The Tactician, 22.11.2015 at 11:24

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I remembered that quote from a youtube I watched a long while ago and googled it for the verse number. Anyways, my point is that people cherrypick verses they like and interpret these books the way they like. You do it, ISIS does it, Christians do it. Yes, some interpretations are "better" than others but ultimately there is no religious authority that can dictate who is a real Muslim and who isn't.

Video on "context" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o

I had a fairly long post then stupid AW went to white screen and deleted it.

I know there's no point arguing that the Qur'an is different -and that I proved that I don't cherry pick- and can be accepted holistically and not be cherry-picked as long as our beliefs differ. As religion is such a spiritual thing nobody really knows what's inside of a person and therefore no organization can really expel or denounce someone's religion as it's between you and God. Logic dictates ISIS isn't Muslim though because they don't interpret the whole Qur'an rather specific verses and that is not accepting the whole Qur'an. If they did their actions would be in contradiction with Islam, and logic dictates there is no logical radical Muslim because Islam is a religion of balance and moderation (non-Muslims wouldn't know).

I believe we have reached a conclusion because our disagreements are now based on personal views.

The video is pretty dumb imo because it shows the absolute most extreme case of stupidity and doesn't even relate or appeal to me. I get what you mean though, but when I said the verse was out of context it was really. You didn't even quote the whole verse
(you can see how the meaning changed drastically)...

Trust me I know perspective is everything. It decides what's good and what's bad to you. Context shapes content which is why it's always important to bring in context while not using context as an excuse.

Anyway, good talk. c:

Is·lam
[isˈläm, izˈläm]
NOUN
the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
the Muslim world:
"the most enormous complex of fortifications in all Islam"


It may be that islam has a more extensive meaning in your respective languages/cultures. Nevertheless we don't equate isis with all muslims, so I don't see much of a problem here.