In Rememberance of 9/11

Skrivet av Acquiesce, 11.09.2014 at 18:54

Skrivet av Khal.eesi, 11.09.2014 at 18:50

Lol who the fuck says things like "god bless america" in 2014?

You'd be surprised. This is pretty much something you have to say to be a politician in the USA regardless of your religious beliefs. Just like "support our troops"

Skrivet av Milkyy, 11.09.2014 at 19:03

God bless Earth.

Skrivet av Pheonixking929, 11.09.2014 at 19:10

I see this thread is getting very heated with comments against america. people are nit picking every little thing about the country. i always wondered why everyone hates on america yet americans like myself never hate on other countries. i never said once that america was the best. no country is. but an attack such as this shouldnt be used as an excuse to spill out hate against this country. when a post was made about remembering a tragedy in russia, i didnt comment anything hateful against russia. i gave my condolences to the innocents that were killed. If you want to hate on a country, fine. go make a topic about it, thats what this section of at war is for right? this is not the place to do that. I have never once made fun of another country or went as low as to come to a thread about a terrorist attack and tried to bring up politics. That is despicable and no matter how much hatred you may have, the least you can do is not comment on this section. I didn't cause you harm, no one on at war caused you harm. But there are people here who have been affected by 9/11. The least you can do is show a decent shred of respect for this tragedy and instead of tarnishing the thousands that were killed, you should leave it the hell alone. I recently saw a photo of a dutch women whose son was on one of the planes that hit the world trade center. Are you going to make comments about how the dutch are horrible people today? Are you going to say how her son deserved to be murdered? Go ahead. Keep saying how America is evil. But at the end of the day, killing is killing. Plain and simple. At the end of the day, this is a thread for remembering that horrible day. Not for you to throw temper tantrums about the US.

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 11.09.2014 at 19:52

I don't like or current foreign policy either under current administration. And sorry, I did not pick up on the sarcasm as this has been a srs discussion. Apologies. Can this topic be locked? I believe this debate is over.

Skrivet av Cpt.Magic, 11.09.2014 at 19:53

Time to make 9:11 joke

Skrivet av Milkyy, 11.09.2014 at 19:03

God bless Earth.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 04:48

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 11.09.2014 at 18:52

This is the only argument that I will make... Most of what u said is somewhat right. Then you got to the freedom part. Umm hello? Obviously you have never been to America before. There is no rule by force here, we do have the freedom to do what we want under the law, so I'm not seeing the bullshit in that. Before you make an argument, please do your research first, thanks.

Really, you have freedom there? So you can:

>drink in public
>have sex in public
>praise satan
>open and register prostitution company
>import drugs
>distribute drugs
>kill your neighbor
>have sex with partner younger than 18
>date a tree
>register a church - bridge worshippers

Oh you cant do all that? Well then, you are not free, sorry, you are just another oppressive totalitarian society.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 04:53

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 11.09.2014 at 18:56

Nice joke. Everyone except liberal geeks say god bless America. You foreigners are so out of touch with who America is. Ik America is not liked by a lot of foreign nations for it's military prescience. But have u ever thought about it from our point of view? Wer tryin to help those countries out. What's even sadder is the ppl like u and Tito. I was not planning on callin ppl out, but I had too. You guys act like ur the all knowing wise sages who claim to know everything about America and yet don't live here. Yes god bless America is still used and will be used for years to come as long as the nation survives. Liberal wackos tried to do away with it, but this was shot down by a large majority of Americans.

You help other countries?!?! When United States invaded Yugoslavia, they did crimes against humanity. I've seen them kill children, rape dogs, dance with the goats, destroy churches, laugh at crying civilians. The worst part is those american soldiers were 16-17 years old. Moral breakdown as i said. You are brainwashed by your government, and think your army is liberating the world from oppressive groups and terrorists, while in fact your army is enslaving the world and making an empire. UN is there only to persuade you how UN is helping people and nations, while in fact USA and NATO are bypassing UN laws and restrictions and do what they want on this planet.

God bless America.

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 12.09.2014 at 06:48

When United States invaded Yugoslavia, they did crimes against humanity. I've seen them kill children, rape dogs, dance with the goats, destroy churches, laugh at crying civilians.
War atrocities are signifigantly different then domestic issues. If this really did happen, that is awful and I'm sorry. War atrocities happen. Every major country has done them. Germany, japan, china, Russia, America included. It happens. So please go diss every other superpower in the world. Thanks

Skrivet av Pheonixking929, 12.09.2014 at 07:49

Is it me or does Tito have too much time on his hands?

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 08:55

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 12.09.2014 at 06:48

War atrocities are signifigantly different then domestic issues. If this really did happen, that is awful and I'm sorry. War atrocities happen. Every major country has done them. Germany, japan, china, Russia, America included. It happens. So please go diss every other superpower in the world. Thanks

So if others did you, you can as well? Thats moral breakdown, when you avoid laws and do what others are doing. You cant justify american crimes by saying ''others did as well'', those others should be punished. USSR shoot on sight soldiers who raped german women in 1944/45, not all as soldiers protect each other so they dont report rape and cover their comrades. People's China executed their soldiers who shoot american and japanese prisoners in WW2(japanese) and korean war(americans). Why is United States denying crimes of their soldiers? Remember well known footage where american marines are urinating on dead civlian body? Remember the rape of a child by american marines in Irak 2003? Why arent they persecuted and punished according to american and international law?

Skrivet av Sultan of Swing, 12.09.2014 at 07:01

Tito I'm done responding with your illogical arguments. Please go read the bill of rights before you make any more arguments that America is a totalitarian state Lololol

My arguments are logical and rational. Its you who deny your nations crimes. You are biased and doesnt go further then established american propaganda of free and brave.

By not giving rights and freedom to your people you are automaticly totalitarian and oppressive. Lets not forget america is executing prisoners, death penalty, wheres freedom of life? You cant say you are free and then arrest people and take their freedom, then you lie.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 09:00

Skrivet av Pheonixking929, 12.09.2014 at 07:49

Is it me or does Tito have too much time on his hands?

Im retired 14 years already, after war ended new military and political elite sent me to retire. Because new government was US puppet, and they dont need old leaders and commanders and their officers, they arrested commanders and leaders and us officers retired. USA bringed new young idiotic leaders to lead our country and send resources to america, so you can build cheap TVs, xbox, cars, ships, weapons, houses, roads while my people starve to death.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 09:00

Im retired 14 years already, after war ended new military and political elite sent me to retire. Because new government was US puppet, and they dont need old leaders and commanders and their officers, they arrested commanders and leaders and us officers retired. USA bringed new young idiotic leaders to lead our country and send resources to america, so you can build cheap TVs, xbox, cars, ships, weapons, houses, roads while my people starve to death.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 09:26

If Germany and Russia, who lost millions soldiers in world war two, where they fought 1v1 without foreign interference, it was hard and cruel, teh deadliest conflict in our history were two strong nations, who used muscles, sweat, tears and blood, effort to beat each other to death, now made peace and cooperate in culture and trade, then every country can.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 08:58

My unit did damage to american units, they probably know for me and my soldiers because we stopped them, they didnt enter Yugoslavia where my unit defended. We destroyed 500 albanian and NATO tanks, 15,000 NATO troops killed, of them 5,000 americans, and arrested 1,000. Im dangerous for them because of my war experience and warfare knowledge, they are afraid people like me can organize nations to confront america. Ive seen too many my countrymen getting arrested and deported to USA prisons from western europe. USA is weakening our lands from good and strong people so they can maintain colonization.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 04:44

Skrivet av tophat, 11.09.2014 at 18:41

Well, I'm not one to speak on behalf of Americans, but certainly some probably don't give a shit about swearing oath to God. Sure they might do it, but they probably see it as very insignificant to their personal beliefs and way of life. Therefore, to those individuals who don't believe in God, the notion of them being oppressed is completely and utterly absent. Despite America having set beliefs for its country and a particular national pride, the country itself and its respective citizens are still individualistic more than anything else.

As for the government saying their citizens are completely free, well, it's obvious that that's just pure bullshit. So I agree with you there, and the notion of the government slowly taking away liberties by the use of fear.

So to return to your original statements; some Americans are atheists and are fighting against the government to change their laws accordingly; some are atheists who just don't give a shit; some believe in God and adhere to their government; and some believe in God and don't give a shit as to the implications this belief has with their government. And of course, there are more variations, I just listed a few.

Americans are not as generalized as you described them to be... And same goes for all western countries; individualism makes these considerations much more complex.

Thank you for sane reply.

I like asking questions like these recently, because many westerns accuse Russia and USSR for oppression and totalitarism but when infact americans are doing exactly the same thing they are talking about for Russia.

In USSR you have to swear loyalty to the Party, in USA to the God. so whats the difference, that isnt freedom when you force people to swear to someone/something they dont believe to.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140909/NEWS05/309090065/Atheist-airman-must-swear-help-me-God-get-out-November They will kick an atheist from the army because he didnt swear oath and mentioned God. If that happened in USSR or China where you swear loyalty to the Party, CNN would spam two weeks how soviets and chinese are oppressive and their citizens are poor and no future.

Skrivet av tophat, 12.09.2014 at 09:34

Well USA and Russia foreign policies are atrocious. Neither of them are in the right. They're both hypocrites across the board.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 04:25

Skrivet av Tirpitz406, 11.09.2014 at 16:02

Please, tito you begun with your critic on america, i know that not everything in americas history is fine, but dont turn a thread about 4000 people dieing into some political discussion

It doesnt matter if i turn or not this into pol. disc. USA is using 4000 dead civilians in 9/11 for politican goals, 13 years already. They made a cult of it. They even make a movies about it! What a blasphemy to the dead victims.

Skrivet av brianwl, 12.09.2014 at 10:44

Show me a single government that isn't hypocritical... i'm relocating there.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 11:32

Skrivet av Pheonixking929, 12.09.2014 at 07:49

Is it me or does Tito have too much time on his hands?

''nolifer'' attacks are part of ad hominem category used by side in debates with no arguments left or at all. Thats like pointing finger at person when someone ask ''who stole this'', obviously the first who point is thief, as his pointing finger is diversion to blame others and protect himself.

So i can conclude you are the one with much free time aka not doing anything else but playing internet games all day long. Very productive indeed.

Let me also add that sides in debate without argument(beside using ad hominem attacks) are also intolerant, because when you have no arguments at all, you become intolerant. Thats very important to highlight.

Skrivet av Skanderbeg, 12.09.2014 at 11:40

My unit did damage to american units, they probably know for me and my soldiers because we stopped them, they didnt enter Yugoslavia where my unit defended. We destroyed 500 albanian and NATO tanks, 15,000 NATO troops killed, of them 5,000 americans, and arrested 1,000. Im dangerous for them because of my war experience and warfare knowledge, they are afraid people like me can organize nations to confront america. Ive seen too many my countrymen getting arrested and deported to USA prisons from western europe. USA is weakening our lands from good and strong people so they can maintain colonization.

Skrivet av Nero, 12.09.2014 at 12:10

Tito, it is very disrespectful to post things like this on a memorial board. I, along with many other American players, would never post anti-Russian or anti-Serbian comments on a memorial to a major terrorist attack. I don't wish to start a fight, I am just kindly asking you to keep your comments to yourself on this board.

Skrivet av Goblin, 12.09.2014 at 12:24

Im really starting to believe that you are living in some paralel dimension and somehow we can communicate trough some worm hole created by Afterwind.