Where to expand using Ukraine PD

During my coal's training grounds and on how to effectively use PD. I was forced to use Ukraine whom i have considered picking before. And there was one slight problem, the hell should I expand? (NO YT vids)

And how to rush Turkey using PD especially if we Turkey uses the same strat.

Random question from a noob.

Dont use PD ukraine at your rank, use SM, RA ...actually dont use it ever, Ukraine PD is a waste in my opinion.

Rushing turkey with PD ukraine xD ...no.

PD is good but... only for 3v3 if you want to defend.Low range,citys are too far from others,so you gonna need to save Air transports.

Skrivet av Yeomanry, 13.10.2014 at 06:21

During my coal's training grounds and on how to effectively use PD. I was forced to use Ukraine whom i have considered picking before. And there was one slight problem, the hell should I expand? (NO YT vids)

And how to rush Turkey using PD especially if we Turkey uses the same strat.

Random question from a noob.

PD is not as great as SM because it cant be that agressive, but i think its still great.Thing is for it to work you need a great turn 1.And to do that you need faster infantry upgrade and air transport capacity.Cause every centimeter counts to make the 1st turn expansion..

Skrivet av Yeomanry, 13.10.2014 at 06:21

During my coal's training grounds and on how to effectively use PD. I was forced to use Ukraine whom i have considered picking before. And there was one slight problem, the hell should I expand? (NO YT vids)

And how to rush Turkey using PD especially if we Turkey uses the same strat.

Random question from a noob.

pd ukraine is great, expansion is essential with it, if you expand correctly you can outproduce turk. no matter what strat you play with ukraine rnw and russia central are nearly always a must in your first turn expansion. they are the 2 highest income countries closeby. 2-3 airtrans are usually acceptable in your turn 1, as well as using tanks, after turn 2 you dont want to be using any more tanks for expanding(at least not until you develope an income). otherwise you wont be able to use all your reins by turn 5, and you will be vulnerable to an early cap attempt by turk.

after that russia southbelarus poland hungary austria lithuania latvia etc are all great places to expand turn 1, the upper balkans if you wish to block turks expansion or russia south if you wish to harass turk early.

i would not use pd if you intend to be agressive early, its not a powerful strat offensively, if you think you might need to be agressive early go sky menace.

Ignore the high rank aristocracy ...they have the upgrades to use it, you dont.

Lol aristocracy... ignore the goblin, close relative to the troll.

Sky menace will work for you for now, dont try pd ukraine until you have at least faster infantry.

He is rank 5, he should be able to play SM worldgames and ukraine. Idk if he can actually play it in 3v3's since the higherrank turkeys can rape him,

Join me, and learn the ways of GW Ukraine.

I love PD Ukraine, but as goblin said stick with SM. Sky Menace Ukraine is powerful. Also check out some guides on what upgrades to purchase.

I dont have SM. Ive spent my last SP to Expandable Main defense. Perhaps I should use RA?

Even with PD, you will require tank. 2 infantry and 3 tanks can take hungary. 6 tanks and 4 infantry OR 8 tanks and 2 infantry can take moscow. You can buy an air transport from khaviv for take moscow.

From kiev buy 3 or 4 tanks, depending if you have the Air Transport capacity. Send the air transport near, but not, in russia northwest. Try getting the air transport in a place where your tanks have enough range for go to saint petesburg. Usually in the middle of kiev and saint petesburg.


After that, you will need to send the units from kiev to board the transport with 2 tanks and 1 infantry OR 4 tanks OR 3 tanks 1 infantry. Whatever fit best to you and your upgrades. After you board the transport, send it diretly to saint petesburg because your land troops will have no range. if you get 6 tanks and 2 infantry you are safe for take. Otherwise, consider using a few ( not much) bombers.

Wall kiev from odessa or wherever you find best. If you still have reinforcements on first turn after doing all that then you can take belarus or moldovia.

Skrivet av Permamuted, 13.10.2014 at 09:03

if you expand correctly you can outproduce turk.

Skrivet av Permamuted, 13.10.2014 at 09:03

after turn 2 you dont want to be using any more tanks for expanding(at least not until you develope an income). otherwise you wont be able to use all your reins by turn 5, and you will be vulnerable to an early cap attempt by turk.

Skrivet av Permamuted, 13.10.2014 at 09:03

i would not use pd if you intend to be agressive early, its not a powerful strat offensively...

...................................... ok.
Just avoiding an unnecessary discussion. Please dont reply back.

Skrivet av Yeomanry, 13.10.2014 at 22:11

I dont have SM. Ive spent my last SP to Expandable Main defense. Perhaps I should use RA?

Sure, with the last upgrade RA seems to be strong and playlable. I suggest you this:

RA nerf infantry defense, so you probably wont make it to defend kiev in turn 3. The trick consist in get all the infantry you can in kiev, and get your tanks very near to kiev. If you get capped you can recap by turn 4 using your tank stack. After the first week, you need to stack A LOT kiev with infantry. Consider to wall kiev or odessa regularity.

Or you can try Guerrilla Warfare Ukraine.

Skrivet av Dr Lecter, 13.10.2014 at 23:09

Or you can try Guerrilla Warfare Ukraine.

Guerrilla Warfare follow the same logic as RA, but with the exepcion that GW is good for late-game, and RA is good for early-game. Both can recap kiev if capped turn 4 hue.

( as for GW I dont think he have the upgrades though. It is suggested to have both infantry AND marines upgrades).

He probably doesn't.

I'd say, though, he needs some sort of upgrades regardless.

SM can't be played effectively without the advanced transport and inf upgrades, and several general cost and speed upgrades.

RA maybe, though in 3v3s it could get rekt.

I'd say, whatever upgrades he has that best suit whatever strategy they do, is what will determine the strategy he uses.

Skrivet av Dr Lecter, 13.10.2014 at 23:19

He probably doesn't.

I'd say, though, he needs some sort of upgrades regardless.

SM can't be played effectively without the advanced transport and inf upgrades, and several general cost and speed upgrades.

RA maybe, though in 3v3s it could get rekt.

I'd say, whatever upgrades he has that best suit whatever strategy they do, is what will determine the strategy he uses.

The thing is, that RA requires almost no upgrades for play. SM would be in the second place because you can play it effective with only Air transport I. PD requires both infantry upgrades, naval capacity and also Air transport capacity. GW requires basically all of those upgrades.

In that chase, then RA would be the best option.

I have AC 1 and TC 1 and Expandable Main Defense. Am on 4k SP now and reconsidering getting SM.

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsofjXWBjaw
Ukraine PD 1st turn.

Skrivet av Nitmaros, 15.10.2014 at 09:04

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsofjXWBjaw
Ukraine PD 1st turn.

Tnx. Sadly, aint premium and I dont have a general to back me up

PD Ukraine - keep Odessa, target Istanbul, varna and samsun once these 3 captured make sure they are held. I see PD Ukraine as containing turkey whilst your west teammates win since as others have already said offensively things are too far apart in that region of Europe .

Skrivet av Yeomanry, 16.10.2014 at 05:37

Skrivet av Nitmaros, 15.10.2014 at 09:04

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsofjXWBjaw
Ukraine PD 1st turn.

Tnx. Sadly, aint premium and I dont have a general to back me up

(I am using fast inf and air trans I for this)
You dont need the general to use the expansion, you just send the air transport from kiev to barely outside kiev with your tanks so they are in range of the air trans headed to rc. Then you can put your air transport back in kiev, and do the same thing as in the video, but you have to leave 1 inf in the trans after the first tank hit on rnw, otherwise your 2nd wave of inf will range fail. The air trans will not make it all the way to rnw, but it should be close enough to drop off your infantry

Please tell me if I missed anything