Duel season situation (constructive critique)
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Since there are so many worries about myself only, let's do a brief review of the dueling scene situation with the aim of actually contributing with something constructive:
The leaderboard:
This is what we have at the moment:
- Njab: quite good player, nothing really important to mention because he does same as everyone here does. He duels whoever joins his duels, no matter if it is a rank 3 - 15.
- Xcolo, Flume, Don: strong players, strong duelist. They will duel whoever joins their duel. If you take a look at their duel history, they have dueled very good players and have an amazing record.
- Franz: rank 6, farming low ranks in beginners... I probably don't need to mention that he does not have the skill level any of us does.
- Manhunter: alt, lost his main long time ago, came back to the game after long time inactive.
- Comedian RaulPB: I lowered my sp in order to do some justice and duel dmx, a guy who is in the learderboard by dueling lower ranks than him. Any other solution on your mind? I am not farming any different from what Njab might be doing. I even have a rank 5/6 limit in my duels but I won't be waiting for any high rank to join my duels, I'll play whoever joins it.
- ArronNaik: a rank 3 account... a guy that has come back after some time and forgot the username he used to have (he was rank 5/6). He is more skilled than a normal rank 3 and is willing to improve even further, hence we dueled (no upgrades) and I taught him a couple things as well. He can vouch for that. Still, he shouldn't be where he is by just farming low ranks.
- Dmx: Rank 9 which always has rank 9 limit for duels and plays low skilled players. Any minimum skilled high rank would be able to beat him easily.
- Aqollo: Former rank 10. Now in another account, which is r8. Fine player, topic already discussed, we moved on.
- Gow: another high rank player.
- Canchito: go canchito goooo!!!! I dare anyone say anything mean about this cute but devastating rank 7.
Let's go to the constructive part of this thread:
Imo, seasonal elo has been a great implementation. But as everything else, it has flaws. What can we see this/last/whatever season which can be considered unfair or not representative of a competitive spirit?
- Low ranks dueling in beginners room.
- Middle or High ranks abusing the rank limit feature.
- High ranks playing against low ranks.
- Alts farming noobs.
- Elo gambling or elo gifting.
Now comes the proposal time
What can we possibly do to remove this issues that afect the competitive aspects of this game? I have listed the problems I think we have with several solutions, each one being alternative of the others.
- Low ranks dueling in beginners room.
- High ranks abusing the rank limit feature.
- High ranks playing against low ranks.
- Alts farming noobs.
- Elo gambling or elo gifting.
Any thoughts, opinions or whatever you feel saying? Just don't flame pls. This isn't a place to accuse, rather to find solutions...
The leaderboard:
This is what we have at the moment:
- Njab: quite good player, nothing really important to mention because he does same as everyone here does. He duels whoever joins his duels, no matter if it is a rank 3 - 15.
- Xcolo, Flume, Don: strong players, strong duelist. They will duel whoever joins their duel. If you take a look at their duel history, they have dueled very good players and have an amazing record.
- Franz: rank 6, farming low ranks in beginners... I probably don't need to mention that he does not have the skill level any of us does.
- Manhunter: alt, lost his main long time ago, came back to the game after long time inactive.
- Comedian RaulPB: I lowered my sp in order to do some justice and duel dmx, a guy who is in the learderboard by dueling lower ranks than him. Any other solution on your mind? I am not farming any different from what Njab might be doing. I even have a rank 5/6 limit in my duels but I won't be waiting for any high rank to join my duels, I'll play whoever joins it.
- ArronNaik: a rank 3 account... a guy that has come back after some time and forgot the username he used to have (he was rank 5/6). He is more skilled than a normal rank 3 and is willing to improve even further, hence we dueled (no upgrades) and I taught him a couple things as well. He can vouch for that. Still, he shouldn't be where he is by just farming low ranks.
- Dmx: Rank 9 which always has rank 9 limit for duels and plays low skilled players. Any minimum skilled high rank would be able to beat him easily.
- Aqollo: Former rank 10. Now in another account, which is r8. Fine player, topic already discussed, we moved on.
- Gow: another high rank player.
- Canchito: go canchito goooo!!!! I dare anyone say anything mean about this cute but devastating rank 7.
Let's go to the constructive part of this thread:
Imo, seasonal elo has been a great implementation. But as everything else, it has flaws. What can we see this/last/whatever season which can be considered unfair or not representative of a competitive spirit?
- Low ranks dueling in beginners room.
- Middle or High ranks abusing the rank limit feature.
- High ranks playing against low ranks.
- Alts farming noobs.
- Elo gambling or elo gifting.
Now comes the proposal time
What can we possibly do to remove this issues that afect the competitive aspects of this game? I have listed the problems I think we have with several solutions, each one being alternative of the others.
- Low ranks dueling in beginners room.
- Disable duels for low ranks (1-4/5 shouldn't be able to duel).
- Create an independent league for low ranks.
- Remove beginners' room and implement a rank limit on games made by low ranks so they can have fun without high ranks joining their games.
- Set elo limits instead of rank limits for duels.
- High ranks abusing the rank limit feature.
- Remove rank limit feature for duels, where it simply doesn't make much sense.
- Implement a minimum interval of ranks where you must duel. For example, +/- 3/ ranks.
- Set elo limits instead of rank limits for duels.
- High ranks playing against low ranks.
- Disable duels for low ranks (1-4/5 shouldn't be able to duel).
- Create an independent league for low ranks.
- Set elo limits instead of rank limits for duels.
- Alts farming noobs.
- Removing them from the elo competition once spotted.
- Disable them from making duels?
- Not granting medals.
- Elo gambling or elo gifting.
- Punishment when noticed: removal of elo or removal from the competition.
Any thoughts, opinions or whatever you feel saying? Just don't flame pls. This isn't a place to accuse, rather to find solutions...
I don't think he ever had his sp lowered..well, he might of, idk lol it shows he's a rank 11 but i remember him being rank 9 so I'm confused
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Well.. Hormigaatomica is not here. But this is his stance on this matter about farm.
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I don't know much about dueling but why not have elo brackets based on your overall elo at the beginning of the season. Something like 1000-1100 bronze bracket 1101-1250 silver bracket and 1251-9999+ gold bracket. Top 3 players in each bracket get a medal, after each season whatever your elo is at, at the end is what bracket you compete in next season.
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Nice... gona fuck up my elo to 1000 so i can compete in a noob bracket next season and i want my trophy to say "top noob"
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Biggest issue for me... is season ending clock. Its like, everybooody knooows season is ending in 7 hours, 13 minutes and 34 seconds and suddenly everyone starts to duel (farm. grind) 4 hours until season ends and im at 3. place, which i have been for the basically entire season, but 2 hours later im literally watching at work how pontez who wasnt even top 5 the whole season is suddenly doing duel after duel after duel grinding, grinding And then im cursing America and season ending on their time and im like searching Al qaeda sites to try to make a donation and shit like that... Regulate the season ending for fuck sake, limit the number of duels one can do in the last week at least
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Yeah, he did, for a couple weeks at least.
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This sounds too much like LoL. I'm not sure I like the elo climbing idea and Goblin is right on his comment
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First of all,  (I'm a big fan of your comments  )Going down to business, maybe we should keep in secret the last day of the season because I'm not sure it is possible to restrict the number of duels played.
---- Don't ever look down on someone unless you're helping him up. Don't ever treat someone else the way you wouldn't want others to treat you. We're all people.
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I'm not too sure about hiding the season end. In fact, other games actually duplicate the points earned just to encourage competition in the last days, because they're the days in which the players does their 101% in order to get in the scoreboard. Nonetheless I understand the problem with players joining the competition in the last month or week and winning a prize, this is just because with the current system the positions are easy to achieve / changes. I for example scored a very high seasonal ELO that stayed for months but still got pressured by Opi whom just came to join the ladder few days ago. The adrenaline from the last days of the season should not be removed. I'd support any other proposal that without affecting the last days prevents dark-horses from reaching the top.
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Are we gonna wait with our arms crossed until this happens?
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Since there has been some talk about players SP being intentionally reduced without proper cause, I'm going to go ahead and fill you guys in on the situation at hand. Moderators only lower players SP when there is foul play at hand. We do not take request from players to intentionally have their SP removed. This has been our policy for a long time and is unlikely to change. The recent issue came about because Sun Tzu started lowering player SP upon their request. You can't really blame him as our policy on the matter was decided a long time ago and was never really listed anywhere. I've gone ahead and restored affected players(those I could find) to their original SP state. I can assure you that such incident won't happen again, as I'll make a post about this in the moderator forum as soon as possible.
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ok thnx for this 
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Thanks Meester, you are quite right I wasn't aware of previous discussions concerning SP reductions, and thank you for correcting the affected accounts. In hindsight I can see how it could be considered unfair by portraying inaccurate information in relation to a players ability.
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Incognito duels are the way forward, special room, map and funds matched auto duel no backouts, will stop selective dueling
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Smart idea
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