The illusion

up to your interpretation

A Cow cannot have an option since it cannot* perceive sentience; and if it can, it could just walk away, or go right then turn left and back to where it is standing now.

Ok. keep voting

Cannot*

Skrivet av Unleashed, 24.06.2015 at 06:23

Ok. keep voting

So you suport the idea that we shouldn't vote at all? How does that even fix anything?
I am not american but from what I see Obama did a good job

Skrivet av Gandalf The Jew, 27.06.2015 at 08:12

Skrivet av Unleashed, 24.06.2015 at 06:23

Ok. keep voting

So you suport the idea that we shouldn't vote at all? How does that even fix anything?
I am not american but from what I see Obama did a good job

I support my freedom to rule over myself, but you sheep can keep continuing to choose people who you consider to be above you and beg them to rule you (for some reason not even you know, just because it's "the right thing to do" LOL dumbasses)

And that wouldn't be a problem. Problem is you drag the rest of us with a brain along with you. Same like religion. Same shyt, different hat.

Skrivet av Unleashed, 27.06.2015 at 09:01

feedom to rule over myself, but you sheep can keep continuing to choose people who you consider to be above you and beg them to rule you (for some reason not even you know, just because it's "the right thing to do" LOL dumbasses)

And that wouldn't be a problem. Problem is you drag the rest of us with a brain along with you. Same like religion. Same shyt, different hat.

Ok then, what do you propose, genius, take all political systems down?
Voting for someone to take care of my homecountry does not make me a sheep, voting is what makes a democracy a democracy and if you were to stop voting you'd become a dictatorship, and believe when I say this, a dictatorship is all but good.
If you don't want to vote, don't do it, no one forces you to do so, but just remember that as a non-voter you are not helping your country and not much will be fixed., not voting won't make you free

So what do you want to do?

True freedom!

• no car payments
• no bills
• no mortgage
• no taxes
• no getting up to work
• happy and free

Unleashed think politicians are tyrants who oppress people, but actually politicians are just representatives of their people and countries. Thats his problem.

Also, 'president', means 'preside' (over meeting or gathering), just spokesman.

Internal politics means local and national administration, over hospitals, schools, police, army and other public matters important to nation. External politics mean international competition and sometimes struggle. Maybe thats what you're against but unable to explain it.

Skrivet av Gandalf The Jew, 27.06.2015 at 11:01

Skrivet av Unleashed, 27.06.2015 at 09:01

feedom to rule over myself, but you sheep can keep continuing to choose people who you consider to be above you and beg them to rule you (for some reason not even you know, just because it's "the right thing to do" LOL dumbasses)

And that wouldn't be a problem. Problem is you drag the rest of us with a brain along with you. Same like religion. Same shyt, different hat.

Ok then, what do you propose, genius, take all political systems down?
Voting for someone to take care of my homecountry does not make me a sheep, voting is what makes a democracy a democracy and if you were to stop voting you'd become a dictatorship, and believe when I say this, a dictatorship is all but good.
If you don't want to vote, don't do it, no one forces you to do so, but just remember that as a non-voter you are not helping your country and not much will be fixed., not voting won't make you free

Hello sheep. I'm glad you think you are free in a democracy. Try smoking a plant that was made illegal by these people you "vote" for. See how free you are afterwards. Or tell someone you disagree with the bible. See how free you are to do that.

Answer this question: If you are not a sheep why exactly do you think you need other people to decide what is right for you, and to "lead" you? You can't make your own decisions? Are you that unintelligent? Do you not have a personality? Do you want to be a puppet? Why do you need a bunch of people to decide whether you have the right for self-defense or not? The same people you "chose" lol so dumb. Hey. If you want, I can tell you why they want to take it away. So blind.

And yes, you do actually force me. It doesn't matter if I don't vote. You sheep will, and then you will impose that will on me and everyone else regardless of how rational we are.

"but we are many. majority bro"

The majority can believe that grass is pink, it won't change the fact that it will always be green. Just like they all believe there's some skydady god out there taking care of everything
Majority = idiots

So in a sense you kinda deserve to be ruled and controlled. Goes in a circle.

Democracy's are what convince the stupid that dictatorships are bad. dictatorships are stronger than democracies shit gets done under a dictator. democracies and democratic leaders are weak and slow and always under the thumb of whoever put them in power. ie funding them during there phony power struggles. that is why democracies are afraid of dictators. dictators hold real power and would be far too appealing to the crowds if given a fair chance. there is nothing to stop a dictator being a good leader except for your small minded view based and the specific histories that were chosen by your pro democratic institutions to teach you. and the specific lies or mistakes, that everyone makes, that news outlets chose to let you hear
you are the embodiment of the picture that unleashed started this thread with. and in effect why i get sick to the bottom of my gut of the stupidity that has wormed its way into a lot of loud fools.

Skrivet av Unleashed, 27.06.2015 at 09:01

Hello sheep. I'm glad you think you are free in a democracy. Try smoking a plant that was made illegal by these people you "vote" for. See how free you are afterwards. Or tell someone you disagree with the bible. See how free you are to do that.

1-Oke mate, I'll try to plant sum plants mu nigguh, you know why?


so yeah, drugs are not really a problem arround these parts

2-The bible, are you serious? there is no mix between religion and the government, atleast where I come from...everyone is free to choose their religion, saying that religion is stupid doesn't make you a genius, they made their choise because they are free to do so


3-''Majority=idiots'' yeah sure bud, you got me, you surely a the true voice of wisdom, I don't even feel like arguing agaisnt you, you pretty much are digging your own grave



Sheep...

You people are... funny.

Representative democracy has its faults. But I contend that it is the best form of government used in history so far.

It allows those leaders whose opinions best match those of the populace to rise to power. The opinion of the populace is... not always right, but it is a form of fail-safe measure. It is a lot more difficult to subvert the opinion of millions than it is to subvert the actions of a few "intelligent" leaders. The masses are also less vulnerable to random insanity.

But I don't think Unleashed means that. If I am not mistaken (which I might be, considering how vague his posts are), what he is advocating for is a state of being where there are no leaders. That might have worked excellently when there were a million people on the planet with three links on the chains of production, but on a planet of billions with complex socioeconomics, having no leaders means being ruled by successive militia hordes.

A state of anarchy cannot last in a populous society. A power vacuum always yearns to be filled and the men who usually fills it are often worse than the most incompetent election candidate.

Skrivet av Gandalf The Jew, 30.06.2015 at 15:18

atleast where I come from...everyone is free to choose their religion [...] because they are free to do so

No they are not. I'm tired of explaining it. If you're mentally retarded stay away from me. And we don't care where you're from. Just cause it's good for you doesn't mean it should be disregarded when it comes to other people/places. You are not the center of the universe.

Skrivet av Gandalf The Jew, 30.06.2015 at 15:18

I don't even feel like arguing agaisnt you

Because you'd lose.