Hello Afterwind, we shall contrast the new update here.

Pro's and Con's. We will figure out if this update is any good, or not. There will be no flaming in this thread, there will be no name-calling, no harassment of age or rank/position, only legitimate responses with proof to back them up will be accepted. This thread is meant to see if this Update truly is bogus, or if it was truly needed. I have one word though; this "New Afterwind", is very much the same as the "Old Afterwind" before the battle system was replaced; you use large stacks and invade as much as you can, rather than countering other stacks and counters, leaving a less strategical experience. So, let's begin, i'll start with 1 pro and 1 con that have been tested or proven:


Pros:

• 1. "Unbreakable wall glitch" is now gone
  
  
  

Cons:

• 1. Many strategies now face much testing and nerfing/buffing
  
  
  
  

Pros:

No more 1 militia blocking a huge stack shit
More realistic system


Cons:

SM is more powerful
no players will shut the hell up about this

Testing and rebalancing is all that this new system needs. I like it much better than the old, it just needs some edits

Skrivet av the equalizer, 25.04.2012 at 17:25

Pros:

No more 1 militia blocking a huge stack shit
More realistic system


Cons:

SM is more powerful
no players will shut the hell up about this

So I, Russia: Volga, am supposed to conjure up 20 units to counter Turkey's 40? No logic. Again, Realism does not equal Fun.

Yes but its incredibly retarded that you can stop 40 units with one total shit unit

Clearly some kind of middle ground needs to be found. also don't pick Russia.

Cons: more dumbed down, noob friendly unstrategic afterwind
imp and sm are vastly improved because of this update
if you are ally fagged, you haven't got a change in hell.
if you are in a inferior position, with less money, less reinforcements, it is extremely difficult to turn the tides.

pros; yet to find one

Skrivet av nonames, 25.04.2012 at 18:32

Cons: more dumbed down, noob friendly unstrategic afterwind
imp and sm are vastly improved because of this update
if you are ally fagged, you haven't got a change in hell.
if you are in a inferior position, with less money, less reinforcements, it is extremely difficult to turn the tides.

pros; yet to find one

Could you provide screenshots or video of these things? Need it to add to the list, so this doesn't seem one-sided or fake or anything of the likes.

I know from experience eg. fighting asia from europe, it is good to turnblock asia in india so you can gather troops in middle east... this works in any place where you have a long way to go, like russia, south america, usa mountains etc etc

ONLY 1 THING TO MORE REALITY SHIT IS IT REALITY WHEN 1TROOP GETS A WHOLE CITIE THATS 0??????
HOW CAN 1TROOP CONTROL WHOLE CITIE??????

Skrivet av babisili, 25.04.2012 at 19:26

ONLY 1 THING TO MORE REALITY SHIT IS IT REALITY WHEN 1TROOP GETS A WHOLE CITIE THATS 0??????
HOW CAN 1TROOP CONTROL WHOLE CITIE??????

I think you missed the whole thing about suggesting new units.
"Suggesting new units: keep in mind that we're not planning to add more base units (the ones that you can buy in cities). There will be some additional rare units, though. If you still insist on suggesting units, keep in mind the scale of the game (1 unit = small army, not a single tank) and the fact that units must be unique in some way, without mirroring the currently available units. "Like tank, but stronger" - doesn't work."

"keep in mind the scale of the game (1 unit = small army, not a single tank)"

One militia isn't taking the city. A squad of milita, say 10 or so, (or whatever unit you use) is actually taking the city.

Pros:
Great update
Made the "UMG TBing SUCKS" guys shut up about making TB agaisnt the rules and whatnot.
Cons:
People won't shut up and play the game.
Made the ""UMG TBing SUCKS" guys beg to get TBing back.

Skrivet av Gking19, 25.04.2012 at 19:38

Skrivet av babisili, 25.04.2012 at 19:26

ONLY 1 THING TO MORE REALITY SHIT IS IT REALITY WHEN 1TROOP GETS A WHOLE CITIE THATS 0??????
HOW CAN 1TROOP CONTROL WHOLE CITIE??????

I think you missed the whole thing about suggesting new units.
"Suggesting new units: keep in mind that we're not planning to add more base units (the ones that you can buy in cities). There will be some additional rare units, though. If you still insist on suggesting units, keep in mind the scale of the game (1 unit = small army, not a single tank) and the fact that units must be unique in some way, without mirroring the currently available units. "Like tank, but stronger" - doesn't work."

"keep in mind the scale of the game (1 unit = small army, not a single tank)"

One militia isn't taking the city. A squad of milita, say 10 or so, (or whatever unit you use) is actually taking the city.

so how can't 1 squad of bombers delay a whole army (big stack) in this reality based game or you see a lot of armies that bombs droping on their heads martching like nothing happens?

Pros
game is much simpler and easy, somehow eliminates luck (but reintroduces it in other forms)

Pros: 2v1 is now possible to do due to less of a TB advantage for the 2 players
less time spent on doing tbs/flowering
while it also makes it easier for you to get capped, it is much easier to recap as well.
(If you're a latejoiner) It is a lot easier to be effective as a latejoiner, due to not getting tbed.

Cons: Cheaper strats are maybe a little overpowered
(If you're not a latejoiner) latejoiners can kill you a lot easier now
hard to avoid wallfucks

Pros:

• Walls are now more important, earning a whole new objective;
  
• The game is more rookie-friendly;
  
• First turn-blocks are almost impossible, unless players attack with full strenght;
  
• No more players losing the game because they couldn't retake their capital, even by having 100 units staying outside of it while 1 militia manages to defend it alone (less luck factor);
  
• Defensive units management is more important now;
  
• You will need to make more variety of units while traveling long distances (more infantries/militias to wall bomber stacks and destroyers to wall transports in water.

Skrivet av Fruit, 25.04.2012 at 20:09

Pros: 2v1 is now possible to do due to less of a TB advantage for the 2 players
less time spent on doing tbs/flowering
while it also makes it easier for you to get capped, it is much easier to recap as well.
(If you're a latejoiner) It is a lot easier to be effective as a latejoiner, due to not getting tbed.

Cons: Cheaper strats are maybe a little overpowered
(If you're not a latejoiner) latejoiners can kill you a lot easier now
hard to avoid wallfucks

couldnt agree more after all this update is all pros!!!

Skrivet av babisili, 25.04.2012 at 19:26

ONLY 1 THING TO MORE REALITY SHIT IS IT REALITY WHEN 1TROOP GETS A WHOLE CITIE THATS 0??????
HOW CAN 1TROOP CONTROL WHOLE CITIE??????

Skrivet av babisili, 25.04.2012 at 18:46

ok if this game is closer to reality when you can pass through bombers how is possible 1 infantry get a whole citie??????????
NEW UPDATE SUCKS!!!!!!

Skrivet av babisili, 25.04.2012 at 20:17

Skrivet av Fruit, 25.04.2012 at 20:09

Pros: 2v1 is now possible to do due to less of a TB advantage for the 2 players
less time spent on doing tbs/flowering
while it also makes it easier for you to get capped, it is much easier to recap as well.
(If you're a latejoiner) It is a lot easier to be effective as a latejoiner, due to not getting tbed.

Cons: Cheaper strats are maybe a little overpowered
(If you're not a latejoiner) latejoiners can kill you a lot easier now
hard to avoid wallfucks

couldnt agree more after all this update is all pros!!!

Wat?

Guys, please read the post, I said "only legitimate responses with proof to back them up will be accepted". I need screenshots or video, or people to test it and vouch, or else I could be adding lies and not knowing it.