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Skrivet av Arriety, 02.04.2025 at 19:06

Atwar has given me rushes I crave for to this day, playing cws for hours and carrying lategame, losing in incredible fashion (thanks tungston and others) or the rush of being someone who I've been trying to beat for months to years. Discussing strategy in this game is fun and incredibly captivating. Trolling low ranks is the equivalent to true happiness, training them is impossible but also a fun thing to try and do.

Helping people get premium, being toxic as hell, im sure most people have had similar experiences when they were low ranks getting dogged on but being able to talk to the vast community. it's been years but I literally remember hundreds maybe a thousand different players even from all the few but valuable years I was able to play. The past is far behind us but I know I',m not just feeling nostalgia, those were great times for not just me but for countless people.

It's easy to blame in hindsight but people move on and this game definitely suffered after people lost the thing that made this game so great : the people who were part of the diverse culture of atwar. Shameful to see this put on blast here and have to relive the sad state of affairs put together by all the players and mods, 99% of people know what the problem is, and I think personally only half or less of the blame can be put on the owner, But rather his advantageous sidekick who swayed him in the wrong direction. Much love to keeping the game running and forums accessible, and thanks to the original devs for designing this work of art.

I appreciate your feedback even if I don't 100% agree with it. I assume you're blaming Sid for atWar's problems, which is unfair. If you want to blame anybody you might as well blame me, even if I disagree with it, because as far as I recall Sid and I were always in agreement with what needed to be done here.

Skrivet av Nero, 02.04.2025 at 18:54

Hi I am Nero

I have to post in this before it gets locked, and I'm surprised it hasn't been already. Like many others, this game was my childhood. Other kids had RuneScape or WoW, I had Afterwind. I have years of fond memories, and even served as a mod for a time.

With that out of the way, it speaks volumes alone that the forum is full of the same complaints over 3 years later. It also just so happens that that's about the only activity the forum really gets, maybe new players are put off by the hour loading time that has been present since day 1.

I remember Dave saying he bought the game because he loved it, he saw a future for it. That's why, instead of modernizing some features, he started an anti-toxicity crusade against some of the most established players. And what good did that do? Over 3 years later, the most activity this game gets is transient guests. And yet, here I am posting in a thread made by Waffel. Why would we come to post this after not playing for years? Because WE LOVE THE GAME TOO!

Maybe the administration and I have different views of community, but there has been no benefit to ANY community on this game. All I see now is a barren safe space for no one. People play games for fun, so when you ban or chase out the players having fun, no one will want to play. That's what happened to me, and I'm sure many others. And now that the toxic players and all their buddies are gone, you get no scenarios, no clan wars, no tournaments, and a dead forum. Just the fact that it took a thread from Waffel to revitalize the forums should tell you what you need to know.

I think it's time to admit that a few trolls aren't the worst thing about this game, and that a certain owner took poor advice. That scary toxic community is here years later wishing this game was playable, while the anti-toxicity crusaders have disappeared and left the game in shambles.

I don't exactly agree with your assessment, but I do appreciate your feedback. If we were to talk perhaps you would see things differently from my perspective -- or perhaps we would never agree 100%. But either way my metaphorical door is open to you, any time. (I think you know my personal Discord but if not Sascha can give it to you.)

Hope you are doing well.

Skrivet av Waffelo, 02.04.2025 at 16:57

Many of the players that got banned, like Mauzer

Mauzer was not banned. He deleted himself for whatever reason, and he comes around now on an alt. He still plays to this day.

Skrivet av Waffelo, 02.04.2025 at 16:57

You claim that you've spend hours talking with me, listening to my concerns, and trying to understand all of it, but that is just a blatant lie.

You know damned well we chatted many, many times right here on atWar. You're cherry picking some irrelevant conversation from Discord and pretending that's the only time we talked, which YOU know is a blatant lie.

I didn't read the rest of your post because you're being disingenuous right off the bat.

Skrivet av El Serbio, 02.04.2025 at 14:16

Dave, do you mind spending few minutes to write your plans for this game and everything? Its means a lot to some of us to hear what is happening with this game and future plans for it? When i say future plans, i mean in this year. Thanks in advance.

If you want to understand my plans you can read my past posts. My plans have not changed. Except that I am very unlikely to make any changes on atWar for 2025. I'm not saying any of this to be flippant. I'm just being honest.

This game was a lifesaver when I got out of both of my serious relationships . Also, as you can see from my badges, it was great meeting Sid in this game — he helped me a lot when I was a newbie.

Thanks to all of you who made this possible. I wish you success and happiness in your personal lives.

Joined in 2011, this game was high school for me. Stopped playing in 2016, came back during the pandemic but by that point the game was largely dead. Still come back to fuck around with the maps while listening to podcasts or something.

And agreed with Nero on the safe space stuff. A war-based strategy game is always going to attract the type of people who are interested in geopolitics, and therefore geopolitical banter. It's what made the community what it was.

Skrivet av Kaska, 06.04.2025 at 12:36

I remember when huarck reported you for posting thé " persian cowards " vidéo

Skrivet av Kaska, 06.04.2025 at 12:29

It's another mistake to keep the bans now, general pardon IS needed

I remember when huarck reported you for posting thé " persian cowards " vidéo

Skrivet av 77TENGRI99, 06.04.2025 at 12:31

Skrivet av Kaska, 06.04.2025 at 12:29

décisions de la décline dans la baguette oui

Stfu nerd

Skrivet av Kaska, 06.04.2025 at 12:29

First of all waffel, you dont know shit about the reasons i resigned. You dont know shit about the way I was as a mod, what m'y opinions are or what I Saw saying in mod forum

I dont want to argue with you, but your perception of m'y rôle in atwar décline IS Silly

Me having a Big mouth might be a problem but i had nothing to do with most of the décisions that provoked this décline. Ask Nero if you dont trust me. I Never permabanned anyone (except one Guy who was IP fishing).

That being said, it was a mistake to ban all these players due to spam and forum posts, perman ban waffel or chill guys liké Lion was wrong, even Lao who i Never liked, Never deserved that treatment, to Say thé least.

It's another mistake to keep the bans now, general pardon IS needed

Dave it's Time to show that you have a bit Heart and let this nerds enjoy a truly Amazing game and sherish their souvenirs.

décisions de la décline dans la baguette oui

Skrivet av IronWill, 05.04.2025 at 16:28

Turks and greeks are secret bff-s

gc

First of all waffel, you dont know shit about the reasons i resigned. You dont know shit about the way I was as a mod, what m'y opinions are or what I was saying in mod forum

I dont want to argue with you, but your perception of m'y rôle in atwar décline IS Silly

Me having a Big mouth might be a problem but i had nothing to do with most of the décisions that provoked this décline. Ask Nero if you dont trust me. I Never permabanned anyone (except one Guy who was IP fishing).

That being said, it was a mistake to ban all these players due to spam and forum posts, perman ban waffel or chill guys liké Lion was wrong, even Lao who i Never liked, Never deserved that treatment, to Say thé least.

It's another mistake to keep the bans now, general pardon IS needed

Dave it's Time to show that you have a big heart and let this nerds enjoy a truly Amazing game and sherish their souvenirs.

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Turks and greeks are secret bff-s

Greeks and persians always claiming that we dont have history except for the last 1000 years

meanwhile turks:
>in those old days they are so proud of, casually saving grecee's lifelong persian rivals from huns
>greece gets completely erased from map by the turks just like persia

Change the map already, it's been the same meta and expansions since 2012. Give Crimea and Donbas to RS and a little buff, fight Turkey that way. Try something new for once.

WHY ISN'T KOSOVO ON THE FUCKIN MAP

All of this could have been avoided if only dave had made me head moderator after buying the game and had given lilouch under my command as head mini supporter

Some people were harshly banned, people that were influential in the community and very active. Their bans led to others leaving as they couldn't play together anymore. I super rarely interacted with Lao for example but Lao seemed fine and not toxic from them few interactions I did experience.

Skrivet av 77TENGRI99, 04.04.2025 at 15:13

Skrivet av YourSphinx, 04.04.2025 at 00:44

Sphinx.

In 1918, communist freaks murdered the Russian Royal Romanov family in their basement.

the romanov family was murdered by bolshevik JEWS in a satanic ritual (they worked so hard to hide this with fake propaganda and censor. never ask about this on chatgpt it will get removed instantly)

Those who know…

Skrivet av YourSphinx, 04.04.2025 at 00:44

Sphinx.

In 1918, communist freaks murdered the Russian Royal Romanov family in their basement.

the romanov family was murdered by bolshevik JEWS in a satanic ritual (they worked so hard to hide this with fake propaganda and censor. never ask about this on chatgpt it will get removed instantly)

Lol we're censoring dave's name now?

Dave kidnapped me

I think dave surrounded himself with the wrong people and whats worse he trusted them and gave them power, which is normal actually the most power hungry people are the ones to make it and then use that power how they want
like Stalin in the Ussr he didnt rule it for so long by being a great statesman for sure , and reading by the comments here on sid u can draw a pretty good parallel, ban dissenters and surround urself with puppets and yes-men.
These are ppl that dont really care about the good of the game but their own ego , if everyone was against them they would permaban everyone destroy the community and leave themselves too just in spite. (which kinda happened already)
If dave thinks hes flawless and hasnt made a single wrong decision in picking staff , bans or whatever then hes an egoist too and theres simply no point to argue about that.
Marking people as toxic and permabanning is also illogical cus who decides who is toxic or not its not a logical measurement , and id bet if u made an anyonymous poll about dave , sid croat or whoever majority would mark them as toxic too.
Many years ago i remember reading the forum drama of croat vs CE, which was some of the funniest banter ive ever read but if that happened today the posts and threads would be deleted, croat would be called toxic,racist and permabaned maybe and CE too as well which puts todays situation in perspective , its probably why nowadays theres not much discussion going on in forums anyway since they have been "sterilized" of toxicity.
Banning or permaban ppl for cheating is k , but permabaning bugs for cheating while slapping pavle on the wrist for the same thing and letting him keep supporter status , id rather u just come and take a crap on my head
than doing this kangaroo court stuff.

Nerd

Pm to join

Skrivet av Tribune Aquila, 22.02.2025 at 01:31

The world has CHANGED.

Ukraine lost 20% of its own LAND. Russia OWNS Crimrea. Russia OWNS Luhansk. Russia OWNS the coastline.

It is OUTRAGEOUS that the world map has not been updated already. Peace negotiations are ALMOST DONE. These borders are obviously NOT changing.

This proposal should be expedited because it is hurting the dignity of millions of Russians who play this game.

Add Kosovo as well, then.

Skrivet av nutt, 26.02.2025 at 21:30

There should be a downvote option on forums

YouTube Rewind 2018 would repeat.

Skrivet av Dave, 01.04.2025 at 23:14

Skrivet av b2spirit, 17.03.2025 at 00:15

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Nice necropost

Necropost? It was never fixed.